He's got a better, more accurate release than Bo. He's also a pretty good playmaking winger. I keep being assured by Canucks media that a Bo extension is in the bag, but from an outsiders perspective, keeping BB and JT and trading Bo for defensive help seems like a better option, assuming a deal with JT can get done. If not, Bo should be the backup plan for if JT leaves.
Player Discussion Will Brock Boeser be worth the contract he just signed?
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Saad made 6 on his previous contract when the cap was lower. Their stat line is pretty similar. I am guessing Saad’s contract is lower now because his statline is not that good in the past few years.
Yes but Boeser has some injury history as well.
I actually have a different memory of Naslund in his last two years here. I didn't think he became a perimeter player. He lost his elite shot post Moore. He looked like he worked hard on the ice but lost a step. So he wasn't able to get where he needed to go and he couldn't beat goalies from further out and with less time and space.
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On top of this, he also just looked tired all the time. Like he couldn't force a hockey game to be important enough to himself to make himself be the player he once was. For everyone's sake, he really should have had a change of scenery.
I always felt that Naslund's broken leg had a larger impact on him than Moore.
Am I the only one who felt that way?
Am I the only one who felt that way?
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Saad's best four-season stretch produced 205 points in 320 regular season games. Boeser's four seasons prior to last season produced the same 205 points in only 244 games. So, no, Saad was not >Boeser. And Saad got $6Mx6 on his post-ELC contract for that level of play.
Saad's an interesting comparison. But I think it favors this Boeser deal, actually.
You're equating Saad's contract into his 30s to Boeser being paid through his statistical prime.
In 2015, when Saad was coming off his ELC where he'd produced comparably to Boeser, he signed $6M x 6 years. Adjusting for cap, that's the equivalent of $7M per.
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Yeah.
And Boeser has better possession numbers through and through but I'm going to presume Boeser critics don't believe those at all.
Naslund lost his shot after the hit, it was sad to see. You would see him trying a slap shot because his snapper was just gone.
He was still pretty dominant post leg injury and pre Moore hit. It was a pretty clean break and he wasn’t even out for that long.
Just goes to show you how poor my memory is.
16 March 2001 He broke his leg
16 February 2004 Steve Moore hit
They were much closer in my memory.
Easy answer for me. Yes he'll show that he's worth the money we've paid. I expect he's going to have a big bounce back year, especially if Miller is traded and Brock gets more time.
Also, his poor defensive play is greatly exaggerated. I believe as someone has said, metrics have shown that. Is he going to knock someone on their ass? No. Is he the fastest guy on the ice? No. But he does compete and he's still also still very young. A lot of room for improvement. I think by the end of the contract, his deal will be looked at as a VERY good deal for the Canucks. Barring injury, I expect him to get back to a 30g pace this season.... and 30g players make more than 6m NOW.... and by the end of the contract 30g at 6m will look like a steal.
Also, his poor defensive play is greatly exaggerated. I believe as someone has said, metrics have shown that. Is he going to knock someone on their ass? No. Is he the fastest guy on the ice? No. But he does compete and he's still also still very young. A lot of room for improvement. I think by the end of the contract, his deal will be looked at as a VERY good deal for the Canucks. Barring injury, I expect him to get back to a 30g pace this season.... and 30g players make more than 6m NOW.... and by the end of the contract 30g at 6m will look like a steal.
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I seem to recall a post here where somebody was giving Naslund grief for not helping the team by scoring. Like how was he going to score goals? From the hospital bed? (post had occurred during the time he was out with that broken leg).
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You're not wrong. He largely lost his top end speed.
His shot remained elite for years until post-Moore, when it became just above average.
I remember him really struggling through 2006-07 and having a decent final season playing with the Twins in 2008.
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He lost his wrister to the point he was taking awkward slappers from the spots he used to snipe.
I don't think people truly realize how much dealing with a sick family member, especially a parent, can anchor a person down. I'm truly amazed he's been able to do what he's done over the past few seasons given everything going on behind the scenes in his personal life. This kid is loaded with strong character. I fully expect a fresher Brock come training camp and a completely different player next season. I think this contract is going to look like a steal in short order.
That is hard to say. His father was dying. Now he's gone (RIP). How Boeser reacts to the loss of his dad is hard to know. Generally, you want to spent some time alone but also be surrounded by friends and family.
If I was Boeser, I don't know why I would want a change of scenery unless that change of scenery puts me closer to family. It's one less thing to deal with. I know and trust the guys in the room. It's the work fam.
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PuckMunchkin
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No.
The question is very simple.
Will his play the next 3 season warrant the contract he just signed.
Oh oops. Sorry my mistake. I think the captaincy and losing was weighing on him. That was one of the things that made Henrik a better captain. Henrik didn't really let things affect him on the ice.
Honestly, Naslund was kind of pushed out the way we were worried what the Sedins would re-sign for.
