Will another defenseman win the art ross?

[OVrocks]

Orr is the only D to win the Art Ross (twice!), do you think we’ll ever see it happen again?

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[DFC]

I think it's possible. Like, if Erik Karlsson had gotten more puck luck in one of his big seasons, he probably could have come close. And it's not unimaginable that a more gifted scorer than Karlsson comes along on D.

Tough, but possible.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Nope.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

not likely. Even Erik Karlsson only hit 80 points once, and the Art Ross winner had 106

 

[bobholly39]

It would take a weak Ross year and a top defensemans year.

Ie in 2014 if Crosby had been injured and Karlsson had one of his big years

Possible

 

[SotasicA]

Ever?

Again, assuming the NHL runs until the Sun turns into a red giant (that's billions of years), it's almost guaranteed another d-man wins the Ross. It's pretty short-sighted to assume otherwise.

Now, it's another thing if it happens during our life time.

 

[izzy]

i doubt it

 

[PensandCaps]

If EK played in Tampa or Pittsburgh. I could see it.

 

[Daximus]

Orr did it with a really solid centerman. Karlsson hasn't ever had a centerman like Orr had.

 

[Hennessy]

In the playoffs? No.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

It’s too close to being possible to count it out

The next highest scorer below Patrick Kane was Jamie Benn with 89 points in 2015-2016, right? Karlsson had 82 points that year. The year prior, Benn won the Art Ross with 87. It’s plenty possible that in a year that is a down year for high level scorers, a superstar defenseman like Erik Karlsson could win the Award.

Brent Burns was actually only ~5 points behind the scoring read for like 60 games of the 2016-2017 season. It wasn’t until the very end that Burns totally fell apart and McDavid exploded to take over the lead.

 

[BenchBrawl]

It is almost certain that one will in the next 100 years.I would bet a lot of money that it will happen in the next 50, but that's a moot bet considering my age.

 

[McFlash97]

It's possible..you need a defenseman like Paul Coffey in a run and gun era, but no Gretzky, Lemieux McDavid level forward at the same time... in other words 1 in 1000 chance.

 

[Demandedace]

Orr is the only D to win the Art Ross (twice!), do you think we’ll ever see it happen again?

Why is this thread in the Stanley Cup Playoffs forum?

 

[Holtbyisms]

In the playoffs? No.

Losing it laughing over here. Was gonna say the same thing.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

The Art Ross is awarded for regular season play so I'm moving this to the appropriate board.

 

[Regal]

As others have said, it's possible, but unlikely. The right mix of a great offensive defenseman like Karlsson and a down Art Ross year like Benn's and it could happen. I doubt we'll ever have a defenseman win it with impressive Art Ross totals like Orr though. 90ish point is possible but I just can't see a dman hitting 100+ in today's game

 

[jetsforever]

It's possible that it will happen eventually, but chances are slim

 

[Regal]

Orr did it with a really solid centerman. Karlsson hasn't ever had a centerman like Orr had.

Orr also finished 2nd to Espo for the Art Ross 3 times. A great center could help raise Karlsson's production but he almost can't be too good or he'll beat Karlsson

 

[olli]

If EK played in Tampa or Pittsburgh. I could see it.

He'd put up crazy numbers, but he wouldn't even lead his team in ;points

 

[Boxscore]

No. If Karlsson doesn't do it, it likely won't be done. D could lead their teams in scoring, but in order for a D to win an Art Ross, it would need to be a fluke situation, where the regular top-5 scorers all go down with major injuries and the Art Ross winner scores 88 points or something. There's no defenseman coming along who will compete with Kucherov putting up 96-100, let alone McDavid lighting the lamp for 105-115. If anyone thinks a player like Rasmus Dahlin will come close to that, they are going to be severely disappointed.

 

[Voight]

I think it's possible. Like, if Erik Karlsson had gotten more puck luck in one of his big seasons, he probably could have come close. And it's not unimaginable that a more gifted scorer than Karlsson comes along on D.

Tough, but possible.

His best season he was 24 points behind, not sure how much more puck luck he could get.

As for the OP - not a chance. Orr was literally a once in a lifetime player, even for those who weren't alive during his playing career.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It was considered laughably impossible until Orr did it.

If a once-in-a-lifetime player comes along and decides to play defense, yes the possibility is there.

 

[sharkhawk]

Orr did it playing with Esposito. I would think it would take karlsson playing with someone like ovie or laine. A pure goal scorer. If he was a team with Mcdavid it wouldn’t work. It would be like coffey and Gretzky. He could possibly score a 100 with Mcdavid though

 

[Aceboogie]

In 15 years? maybe. Its a defiant yes in the long term future. Karlsson/Dahlin/Burns all have a shot (plus some D that we don't think about/is a prospect now). The offense for forwards is declining and being more spread out amongst the entire forward core. Slow seasons or injuries to the top 3 forwards could make it a possibility