Why the double minor for blood drawn?

[SUBdrewgANS]

I kind of understand their reasoning behind it, but 4 minutes is almost a major penalty!

Why not just add 1 minute.. 2min minor and 1min for blood

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[Stopsight]

You can score infinitely more goals on a major than on a double minor so not the same

 

[Dalagaze]

You can score infinitely more goals on a major than on a double minor so not the same

Plus the major has a game misconduct.

 

[the4thlinegrinder]

I think its actually "visible injury", so there doesn't have to be blood drawn

 

[Derfel*]

I'd say the extra 2-minutes should be tacked on for any penalty where there is blood - roughing, tripping, hooking, slashing, delay of game...

 

[penguins2946*]

I don't agree with that call anyway. Klein was sliding across the ice when he got hit by Sill (Sill was going for a deflection). I thought a high stick wouldn't be called against someone if the person they are hitting with the stick is on the ice/low.

 

[Mike Martin]

During the 1980's and 1990's a high stick that drew blood was a 5 minute major penalty and a Game Misconduct. At some point during the 2000's this penalty must have been changed and blood suddenly didn't matter as much, everything was about checks to the head and concussions and hits based on that were the main major penalty calls.

 

[Stanley Foobrick]

Why not 2:45 if it's a lip? 3:15 if it's a nose? 4:00 if it's around the eye?

we have minors (2:00) and majors (5:00) we don't need to invent any more penalty time lengths. Minor, double minor, major, that's all the refs get to work with.

 

[Kunta Kinte]

Its a stupid rule.

The blood thing... Some people have thicker skin than other and some peole (like me) can bleed from a so soft contact.

Peform the same motion, same strenght over and over on all players.. some will cut, others won't.

Stupid.

 

[tom_servo]

Its a stupid rule.

The blood thing... Some people have thicker skin than other and some peole (like me) can bleed from a so soft contact.

Peform the same motion, same strenght over and over on all players.. some will cut, others won't.

Stupid.

Yeah, it's just an incentive to bleed, really.

 

[Strudel]

Why not 2:45 if it's a lip? 3:15 if it's a nose? 4:00 if it's around the eye?

we have minors (2:00) and majors (5:00) we don't need to invent any more penalty time lengths. Minor, double minor, major, that's all the refs get to work with.

This. Adding all different kinds of requisites for different amounts of time for a penalty just complicates things and leaves more room for error and potential controversy on the ref's part.

 

[Rysto]

Yeah, it's just an incentive to bleed, really.

Worse, it's an incentive to not wear a visor.

 

[Frenchy]

Its a stupid rule.

The blood thing... Some people have thicker skin than other and some peole (like me) can bleed from a so soft contact.

Peform the same motion, same strenght over and over on all players.. some will cut, others won't.

Stupid.

what's frustrate me the most is when a player tries to find blood at all cost after a high stick penality . "Ref you just gave him two minutes ? give me a moment i'll find you blood , so you could give him 5 "

 

[Anglesmith]

Yeah, I've always hated this too. It's even worse in the playoffs, too. The refs can let everything go all game, then someone cuts someone else with a stick with 5 minutes to go and it's an automatic double-minor.

 

[Mayor Bee]

During the 1980's and 1990's a high stick that drew blood was a 5 minute major penalty and a Game Misconduct. At some point during the 2000's this penalty must have been changed and blood suddenly didn't matter as much, everything was about checks to the head and concussions and hits based on that were the main major penalty calls.

There were accusations of players either gouging themselves to create a cut or of keeping a blood capsule around.

Ray Bourque was one who had the capsule accusation made against him around 1992, and he said something about how he'd always played hockey and didn't realize that the playoffs became pro wrestling.

 

[Butcher]

There were accusations of players either gouging themselves to create a cut or of keeping a blood capsule around.

Ray Bourque was one who had the capsule accusation made against him around 1992, and he said something about how he'd always played hockey and didn't realize that the playoffs became pro wrestling.

Players biting their own lips to draw blood was another common accusation.

 

[DarthYenik]

Its a stupid rule.

The blood thing... Some people have thicker skin than other and some peole (like me) can bleed from a so soft contact.

Peform the same motion, same strenght over and over on all players.. some will cut, others won't.

Stupid.

Not only that but, you can have a broken bone, and not bleed. Conversely you can get a little superficial nick in the wrong place, and it'll bleed like a stuck pig.

 

[mrhockey193195]

It's one of the most arbitrary "rules" in all of sports. "Rules" in quotations because it's not actually in the rule book.

It's a joke. The severity of the injury should have NO bearing on the penalty. Some of the most dangerous plays you'll ever see have (thankfully and luckily) not resulted in injuries. Doesn't make those plays any better, or warrant a smaller penalty.

 

[scryan]

Its a stupid rule.

The blood thing... Some people have thicker skin than other and some peole (like me) can bleed from a so soft contact.

Peform the same motion, same strenght over and over on all players.. some will cut, others won't.

Stupid.

Its not a stupid rule, because its not a rule in the first place.
There is no rule that bleeding is what causes a double minor.

Rule 60 - High-sticking

60.1 High-sticking - A “high stick” is one which is carried above the height of the opponent’s shoulders. Players and goalkeepers must be in control and responsible for their stick. However, a player is permitted accidental contact on an opponent if the act is committed as a normal windup or follow through of a shooting motion. A wild swing at a bouncing puck would not be considered a normal windup or follow through and any contact to an opponent above the height of the shoulders shall be penalized accordingly.

60.2 Minor Penalty - Any contact made by a stick on an opponent above the shoulders is prohibited and a minor penalty shall be imposed.

60.3 Double-minor Penalty - When a player carries or holds any part of his stick above the shoulders of the opponent so that injury results, the Referee shall assess a double-minor penalty for all contact that causes an injury, whether accidental or careless, in the opinion of the Referee.

So again, the call is not for causing another player to bleed... Its for the ref being convinced that the contact caused injury.

HOWEVER, depending on your definition of injury, its pretty damn obvious there is an injury to your skin when it starts leaking.
It's just the most obvious and immediately provable form of "causing injury", because unless they cause a bruise or stop the game for medical evaluation (or a player is left miss-shapen)... Pretty hard to prove injury with out a cut.
I know I have seen bloodless double majors, but can't think of what the case was... Its how I became aware of the distinction in the first place though.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Plus the major has a game misconduct.

false, not always the case

 

[kingsfan28]

It seems like its always been the case, you draw blood its an automatic 4, possibly a 5 min major. I've never seen a 2 min minor called that's drawn blood.

 

[aemoreira1981]

Its a stupid rule.

The blood thing... Some people have thicker skin than other and some peole (like me) can bleed from a so soft contact.

Peform the same motion, same strenght over and over on all players.. some will cut, others won't.

Stupid.

It used to be worse though---wasn't there a 1-game suspension at one time linked to this?

 

[scryan]

It seems like its always been the case, you draw blood its an automatic 4, possibly a 5 min major. I've never seen a 2 min minor called that's drawn blood.

Thats because its really really hard to bleed with no injury.

 

[Mike Martin]

It used to be worse though---wasn't there a 1-game suspension at one time linked to this?

You are correct. It used to be that when a player received his second high sticking major of the season there was an automatic one game suspension.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Plus the major has a game misconduct.

That is incorrect.