Why do Czechs and Slovaks like hockey

JimJewell

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I was just looking at the map of Europe and it struck me that the former Czechoslovakia is surrounded by larger countries that are lower tier hockey countries (Ukraine, Germany, Austria) or completely indifferent to the game (Poland, Hungary).
The closest top tier hockey nation is Sweden and it's hundreds miles north and also over the water. What was it about Czechoslovakia that led to hockey taking a foothold there in the first place? It seems like it's a lone island of hockey surrounded by indifference.
 

JimJewell

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The eastern bloc of Europe was widely influenced by the Soviets during the Cold War Era, I'm sure that has everything to do with it.

Yes, but plenty of the eastern bloc countries have minimal interest in hockey. Hockey is big in Russia, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Latvia. But Poland, Hungary, the Ukraine, Belarus, Lituania and Estonia have little to no interest in hockey. Interest in hockey in Eastern Europe couldn't just be based on climate either because most of Poland and Belarus are both north of both the Czech Republic and Slovakia. If Soviet influence is important why isn't Belarus a big hockey nation? It's right on Russia's border. You have to look at the map of Europe to see what I'm talking about. The Czech Republic and Slovakia are two small hockey nations surrounded by large countries with almost no hockey heritage. What made the sport catch on in those two countries and not the surrounding ones?
 

slovakiasnextone

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The eastern bloc of Europe was widely influenced by the Soviets during the Cold War Era, I'm sure that has everything to do with it.

I don't think so. Czech republic (well Bohemia while it was still a part of Austria) was a foudning member of IIHF. In Slovakia bandy hockey was more popular when Czechoslovakia became a country, but the popularity of ice-hockey had been growing since the European Championship was played in High Tatras in 1925.

A bit about the early years of Slovak hockey from the federation's website:

Canadians are justly proud of their bringing ice hockey - one of the most tremendous games to the whole world. Overseas it was already played in the last century but began entering Europe step by step, too. The first European Championship took place in 1910. During that time Canadian (ice) hockey was a rival to bandy hockey and definitely took the lead after the Olympic Games in Chamonix in 1924.

Bandy hockey was number one in Slovakia, too. Canadian hockey got only popularised during the European Championship in High Tatras in 1925.

The year 1929 is the milestone of the ice hockey in Slovakia, when the first volume of the Tatra Cup (the second oldest tournament in Europe - after the Spengler Cup) was organised in Starý Smokovec. Two days later, on January 31st, 1929, the first Slovak hockey organisation was established under the name of Slovenská župa kanadského hokeja as a part of the Czechoslovak Ice Hockey Federation.

The founding members were Ski klub Bratislava, Å K Slávia Banská Bystrica, Å K Vysoké Tatry, ČsÅ K KoÅ¡ice and Å K Žilina. So the hockey finally got its "mother" organisation in Slovakia and this date is considered as the initial day of history of ice hockey in Slovakia.

The first organised competition, The Slovak Championship, was launched already in 1930 and the first Slovak team managed to fight its way to the National Czechoslovak Hockey League in 1936. It was the HC Tatry. The university club VÅ  Bratislava became the second participant the following year.

The first Slovak player included into the Czechoslovak National Team was Ladislav Troják, player of HC Košice. In 1934 he left for Prague to play for LTC Praha, one of the best hockey clubs in Czechoslovakia those times. That was a springboard to the representation team for him. Neither did he staid away from the Team Czechoslovakia at the Winter Olympic Games in Garmisch-Partenkirchen in 1936, where the representation selects ended up on the 4th place. However the clouds of fascism and the World War II had already been flying over the Europe then.

After the disintegration of Czechoslovakia in 1938 and during the time of establishment of Separate Slovak State the Slovenská župa kanadského hokeja changed to the Slovak Ice Hockey Federation and the first Slovak National Team resulted from that change. The Slovak representation selects played 10 international games with the balance of 3 wins, 2 ties and 5 losts in period between 1940-1943. In country under the High Tatras ice hockey was generally enjoyed by public, particularly where the natural conditions were suitable. Banská Bystrica, for example, was one of such towns and had the largest number of players representing Slovakia.

The Slovak Ice Hockey Federation became a part of the Czechoslovak Ice Hockey Federation after the World War II and four Slovak teams (ŠK Bratislava, VŠ Bratislava, ŠK Banská Bystrica, HC Vysoké Tatry) participated to the restored national competition.

The first post-war World Championship was played in Prague in 1947 and Team Czechoslovakia again also consisted of Ladislav Troják, who unfortunately died at the air crash over the La Manche together with 5 other members of National Team. It was his fifth championship. Matej Buckna, Slovak of Canadian origin was a Head Coach of the National Team.

Many more Slovak teams like VŠ Bratislava, ŠK Banská Bystrica, Žilina, Poprad (for 5 seasons) were introduced to the national competition during the first decade after the World War II. Only the HC Slovan Bratislava, where the best hockey players (also from villages) started to assemble, managed to hold their permanent place there. It was particularly their contribution to arising the number of the Slovak players in the National Team during the 50-ties.

Bratislava hosted the world hockey elite in 1959. One group of the World Championship was played there. Canadian National Team enjoyed great interest together with the Team Czechoslovakia. The cradle of ice hockey was represented by the club Belleville McFarlands. It was them (Czechoslovakia and Canada), who were promoted to the final round played in Prague. That championship had an enormous share on the further popularisation and development of ice hockey in Slovakia.

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But I don't really have an answer to the OPs question, you could easily ask the same about hockey being popular in Sweden and Finland, but not so much in Norway. One more thing you have to keep in mind is that 15 years ago both Poland and Ukraine had a much different position on the world hockey map than today as both of them even played in elite IHWC at the start of the 2000s.
 

lamini

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The eastern bloc of Europe was widely influenced by the Soviets during the Cold War Era, I'm sure that has everything to do with it.

Actually it was the other way around. Czechs started playing hockey before Soviets and AFAIK the begining of Soviet hockey was influenced by czech team LTC Praha. We won our first and second WCh before communism and our national team was more or less destroyed by communists after 1948 (most of them ended in prison).
 

JimJewell

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I don't think so. Czech republic (well Bohemia while it was still a part of Austria) was a foudning member of IIHF. In Slovakia bandy hockey was more popular when Czechoslovakia became a country, but the popularity of ice-hockey had been growing since the European Championship was played in High Tatras in 1925.

A bit about the early years of Slovak hockey from the federation's website:



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But I don't really have an answer to the OPs question, you could easily ask the same about hockey being popular in Sweden and Finland, but not so much in Norway. One more thing you have to keep in mind is that 15 years ago both Poland and Ukraine had a much different position on the world hockey map than today as both of them even played in elite IHWC at the start of the 2000s.

Thanks very much for that. I didn't know bandy was at the root of Czech and Slovak hockey, but it certainly seems to be a necessary precusor to hockey if Sweden and Finland are any indication. I have always wondered about Norway too. Something about Norway's geography must not have been conducive to bandy and thus hockey. Also, something about the geography of the Czech Republic and Slovakia must have helped bandy take root. I'm curious what that might have been. Even at their peaks, Poland and the Ukraine didn't produce hockey players in the numbers that consistently flow out of the former Czechoslovakia although they were certainly better in years past.
 

slovakiasnextone

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Thanks very much for that. I didn't know bandy was at the root of Czech and Slovak hockey, but it certainly seems to be a necessary precusor to hockey if Sweden and Finland are any indication. I have always wondered about Norway too. Something about Norway's geography must not have been conducive to bandy and thus hockey. Also, something about the geography of the Czech Republic and Slovakia must have helped bandy take root. I'm curious what that might have been. Even at their peaks, Poland and the Ukraine didn't produce hockey players in the numbers that consistently flow out of the former Czechoslovakia although they were certainly better in years past.

That part about bandy was only about Slovakia, ice-hockey was already established in CZE when it started gaining popularity in Slovakia.
 

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