Why did some of the 2005 free agents not pan out?

Al Bundy*

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Prior to the 2005-06 season, there was a bevy of free-agent signings.

Only two of them are still with the same team- Scott Niedermayer with the Ducks and Sergei Gonchar with the Penguins (Kariya played very well in Nashville, but plays for the Blues now).

Why did some of these signings fail (on the other side, why were Gonchar and Niedermayer able to work out as well as they did?)
 

Dark Shadows

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Prior to the 2005-06 season, there was a bevy of free-agent signings.

Only two of them are still with the same team- Scott Niedermayer with the Ducks and Sergei Gonchar with the Penguins (Kariya played very well in Nashville, but plays for the Blues now).

Why did some of these signings fail (on the other side, why were Gonchar and Niedermayer able to work out as well as they did?)

Which signings in particular do you see as "Failures"?
 

Fuzzy Bunny

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Which signings in particular do you see as "Failures"?

Just from a Pens fans point of view, there were several busts for the Pens.

Ziggy Palffy quit on the team, but was a ppg player.

Leclair was just dreadful. Recchi brought some positive things but his +/- was an embarrassment (While I don't put much weight into plus-minus he was a -28) But it led to the drafting of Staal (the Pens didnt tank that year -unlike the forced tank due to bankruptcy- they just stunk).

Pens left from that team:

Crosby
Talbot
--
Scuderi
Orpik
Gonchar
--
MAF
 

Canadiens1958

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Lost Season / Rule Changes

Prior to the 2005-06 season, there was a bevy of free-agent signings.

Only two of them are still with the same team- Scott Niedermayer with the Ducks and Sergei Gonchar with the Penguins (Kariya played very well in Nashville, but plays for the Blues now).

Why did some of these signings fail (on the other side, why were Gonchar and Niedermayer able to work out as well as they did?)

The lost season and the resulting rules changes made the signing of free agents and the 2005 draft more of a gamble than usual since decisions were made on criteria that was no longer applicable and weighing the effects of a season without NHL hockey on a player is always iffy.

The Niedermayer, Gonchar and Kariya signings worked out because the players had a game that translated well to the new rule changes and signed with teams where their contributions were an excellent blend.
 

Fuzzy Bunny

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Back in 05-06 with the team playing terrible, Gonchar was having a tough go and people were calling for his head in trades that if you used the search function back to around December-January of that year would make your head shake. Sure its 20/20 now, but it should be a note to put a bit more perspective before you go rant on a message board.
 

bruins309

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A lot of it might have had to do with guys not playing during the lockout, particularly the older guys.

The Bruins famously gutted their roster in anticipation of many free agents coming their way with anticipated cap room. Throwing together a collection of guys and expecting them to gel is a bad combination because it takes time to build a truly good team. How did the Bruins do?

Alex Zhamnov: Signed because Forsberg and Modano wisely turned down the chance to go to a gutted team. They gave him three years, $12 million and they got one goal, a handful of assists, and 24 games out of him.

Brian Leetch: A low-risk deal for one year; he was well past his prime by this point and hadn't even played during the lockout. Missed a quarter of the season and was no great shakes when he played. Signed because the Bruins didn't bother to lock up Sergei Gonchar long-term (great decision :sarcasm:)

Shawn McEachern: Signed to a two year deal, he didn't even last two months before being shipped to the AHL and was later bought out.

Dave Scatchard: Signed to a four year deal, which might have been a good idea if he was a 20 goal scorer that he was a couple of times before the lockout. Wasn't horrible, but was gone by mid-November of that season in exchange for David Tanabe, who they thought so highly of that they walked away from his arbitration award the next summer.

Travis Green: Was given a two year deal and was pretty awful. They couldnt even find a team to take him at the deadline and he was also bought out.

Jeremy Reich: Given a 1 year deal, has been an organizational soldier since then. Who would have guessed that he would outlast all the guys above?

They also re-signed UFAs Tim Thomas and Glen Murray. Try and guess which one worked out pretty well....:D
 

Big Phil

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The Brad Richards signing. Yeah I know he won the Conn Smythe. This was a perfect time to get a new contract but the money he took was insane! He helped in driving that team into the ground because while they had Vinny and St. Louis still along with him, they lost Khabibulin. If Richards had some foresight, he just might see that in a cap world it can't be "all for you" if you want to win. Maybe if that team stays together Tampa has another Cup and we look at Richards' career on better terms
 

Shredder

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The Hawks did really well:

Khabibulin, $6.75 million
Aucoin, $4 million
Cullimore, $1.9 million
Barnaby, $1.33 million

:help:
 

HoverCarle*

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The Hawks did really well:

Khabibulin, $6.75 million
Aucoin, $4 million
Cullimore, $1.9 million
Barnaby, $1.33 million

:help:

and Lapointe

Forsberg would probably still be a flyer if he hadn't been so injured. Hatcher and Rathje were both injury plagued aswell
 

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