NFL: Who will win the AFC North?

[Blackhawkswincup]

Division is usually competitive outside of Browns though Steelers have won 3 of the last 4 division titles

I expect it to be another year of same with Bengals rebounding to be competitive thru year. Ravens have feel of an 8-8 team

I expect Browns to still suck

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[Unholy Diver]

The Steelers should take it assuming the big 3 is healthy

 

[darko]

Steelers and quite easily too.

 

[Voight]

PIT, CIN, CLE, BAL

Don't see anyone else making the playoffs aside from Steeltown.

 

[Dont Toews Me Bro]

Pittsburgh will run away with it. The rest of the division is shit.

 

[Dont Toews Me Bro]

PIT, CIN, CLE, BAL

Don't see anyone else making the playoffs aside from Steeltown.

I noticed you have Baltimore below a team that literally went 0-16 last year. Care to explain?

 

[Voight]

I noticed you have Baltimore below a team that literally went 0-16 last year. Care to explain?

CLE is a much different team, much improved. Ravens are trash.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Easily Pittsburgh

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

CLE is a much different team, much improved. Ravens are trash.

Is Hue Jackson still coach?

If so how are they that improved? And Ravens still overall have better roster and coaching staff

 

[Babe Ruth]

Is Hue Jackson still coach?

Only coach in the NFL with more (undeserved) job security than Clueless Hue Jackson, is Marvin Lewis.

Ohio's the current mecca for NFL head coaching futility..

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Accidentally voted Ravens. So let's just call me a prophet if I'm right.

Steelers.

 

[Troy McClure]

Is Hue Jackson still coach?

If so how are they that improved? And Ravens still overall have better roster and coaching staff

Hue had all play calling duties taken away, so the coaching will be different as well.

 

[SJSharksfan39]

I look at the teams in this division and wonder what is the scenario where Pittsburgh doesn't win. Maybe major injuries. I don't see another team challenging them.

 

[Josepho]

The Ravens are not worse than the Bengals good god

probably PIT BAL CLE CIN

 

[IslesFan2017]

Agree with most posters in that the Steelers win the division with the Ravens/Bengals possibly fighting for a wild card spot and the Browns bringing up the rear.

 

[Troy McClure]

The Browns might surprise people.

I posted it in another thread, but some football nerd place has a wins above replacement metric for QBs. Going from Kizer to Taylor is a huge swing. Kizer alone accounted for essentially three losses last season due to his many many turnovers. Tyrod Taylor is worth almost five wins. Combined, you’re looking at almost an eight game swing.

Just from QB improvement alone, they could go from zero wins to seven or eight. Kizer was so bad. The offense was so bad. The Browns haven’t scored 30 points in a game since an OT game early in the 2015 season.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Pittsburgh by a fairly good margin. Their defense will likely be crap per usual but it'll be enough to get a ticket to get their asses whooped by the Patriots again come playoff time.

The rest of the division is...less desirable. Cincy should be better since they fixed their o-line. Baltimore has zero offense to speak of and Cleveland is a giant question mark given they could finish anywhere from 2nd to 4th.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

The Browns might surprise people.

I posted it in another thread, but some football nerd place has a wins above replacement metric for QBs. Going from Kizer to Taylor is a huge swing. Kizer alone accounted for essentially three losses last season due to his many many turnovers. Tyrod Taylor is worth almost five wins. Combined, you’re looking at almost an eight game swing.

Just from QB improvement alone, they could go from zero wins to seven or eight. Kizer was so bad. The offense was so bad. The Browns haven’t scored 30 points in a game since an OT game early in the 2015 season.

What is wins above replacement metric for HC in Cleveland?

Get a real coach and maybe Cleveland can be on right track

 

[Evincar]

What is wins above replacement metric for HC in Cleveland?

Get a real coach and maybe Cleveland can be on right track

Also the fact that the team accepted to be on Hard Knocks just shows you how dysfunctional that organization really is.

 

[Troy McClure]

Also the fact that the team accepted to be on Hard Knocks just shows you how dysfunctional that organization really is.

I think.they were forced to be on Hard Knocks because they were out of reasons to say no like they had several seasons in a row.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Bold prediction: Cleveland finishes second in the division.

 

[MMC]

 

[third man in]

CLE is a much different team, much improved. Ravens are trash.

heh the trash just won the division

 

[EpochLink]

CLE is a much different team, much improved. Ravens are trash.

Cleveland has definitely improved.
Ravens have turned the corner, they improved with a new offense with the number 1 defense in the league.

So all in all, win/win

 

[Dont Toews Me Bro]

Pittsburgh will run away with it. The rest of the division is ****.

Oops.