Who will finish second in points?

[Contenderorpretender]

The race for second in scoring seems to be tightening up with approximately 10 games left. Will Draisaitl finish #2 or will someone else catch up or tie Draisaitl in points.

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[bobholly39]

Draisaitl.

He has 16 points in his last 9 games against Vancouver, and plays them 5 more times this year. I think he'll do a lot of damage there.

Also - out of everyone on your list, Draisaitl has more games left to play than anyone but MacKinnon. And he's between 5 to 7 points ahead of all of them.

8 games for Drai
6 for Marner/Matthews
7 for Marchand
6 for Kane
9 for MacKinnon

Mack is 6 points back. I'd say 95% likely Drai beats him. Drai only has 6 points in his last 8 games, but that probably means he's due for a hot streak.

 

[Emerz]

I'd say Drai stays in #2, I don't see the Oilers scoring drying up and most of their scoring is going to flow through Drai and McDavid.

 

[CatchyTune]

Nobody will catch Leon in point totals, but if Mackinnon didnt miss games he could very well have finished 2nd. He has a higher PPG.

 

[Muffin]

MacKinnon could make up the 6 points after 4 games against San Jose and Martin Jones.

 

[Sweetpotato]

It'll be Draisaitl.

 

[Video Nasty]

Drai. Which means he’ll have finished 4th, 1st, and 2nd in the last 3 scoring races.

Yet some will continue to beat the drum for lesser players.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Drai is the overwhelming favorite given lead and games remaining

 

[KidLine93]

i'm more interested in who finishes with a higher +/- since that seemed to be such a major issue for everyone last yer

 

[Steven Toast]

2nd place in scoring will be Draisaitl, who is also firmly the 2nd best player in the NHL

 

[82Ninety42011]

This is Drai and I believe he finishes strong putting more separation between him and 3rd rest of the season.

 

[4EDM14OIL93]

i'm more interested in who finishes with a higher +/- since that seemed to be such a major issue for everyone last yer

Draisaitl currently tied for first in the league. But of course no one cares about his +/- this year

 

[KidLine93]

Draisaitl currently tied for first in the league. But of course no one cares about his +/- this year

it actually shows that he can't be trusted because its almost the same +/- as Joel Edmundson, and everyone would definitely take Mackinnon and panarin over Edmundson if given the opportunity

 

[Buzzman17]

2nd place in scoring will be Draisaitl, who is also firmly the 2nd best player in the NHL

Nope. He just plays for a team with no depth and plays full two minutes of every power play and last five minutes of every game. Two empty net assists help too lol. Selfish players who care about points and that’s it,

 

[Steven Toast]

Nope. He just plays for a team with no depth and plays full two minutes of every power play and last five minutes of every game. Two empty net assists help too lol. Selfish players who care about points and that’s it,

His team has no depth isn't really true, but if it was I don't see how that is a knock against Draisaitl. And why wouldn't Tippet continue to play 97 and 29 for the most of a PP? Its lead to the Oilers having the best PP in the NHL the last two years...


He has 4 ENP this year. Marner has 3, MacKinnon has 4, Kane has 3, Matthews has 2, Marchand has 6.


Ho hum for Draisaitl 71 points in 49 games (1.45 ppg). Now has a 1.42 ppg - 116 point pace - over the last 3 years. Hes very clearly the 2nd best forward.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Draisaitl currently tied for first in the league. But of course no one cares about his +/- this year

In all fairness, Nobody has cared about that stat for a long time.

 

[4EDM14OIL93]

In all fairness, Nobody has cared about that stat for a long time.

Agreed for the most part but many people used Drai’s +/- last year to discredit him and say how he didn’t deserve his trophies

 

[Regal]

i'm more interested in who finishes with a higher +/- since that seemed to be such a major issue for everyone last yer

Agreed for the most part but many people used Drai’s +/- last year to discredit him and say how he didn’t deserve his trophies

It wasn't his plus minus that was an issue last year it was his underlying defensive metrics. Those are still poor this year, he's just getting unsustainable goaltending at ES. No one "cares about his plus minus" this year simply because he hasn't been in discussions for the Hart so it hasn't generally come up.

 

[KidLine93]

In all fairness, Nobody has cared about that stat for a long time.

you must have missed the Hart debates on here last season

 

[4EDM14OIL93]

It wasn't his plus minus that was an issue last year it was his underlying defensive metrics. Those are still poor this year, he's just getting unsustainable goaltending at ES. No one "cares about his plus minus" this year simply because he hasn't been in discussions for the Hart so it hasn't generally come up.

It was definitely his +/- for the vast majority. People can whine about defensive metrics all they want but I’ll take actual results instead. The past two years minus one terrible month in December 2019 he has been on for way more goals for than against

 

[Regal]

It was definitely his +/- for the vast majority. People can whine about defensive metrics all they want but I’ll take actual results instead. The past two years minus one terrible month in December 2019 he has been on for way more goals for than against

I mean it depends on who you're talking about. Yea there were idiots who called him a liability despite being a plus player 5v5 and significantly raising the GF% of the Oilers when on the ice compared to off by a significant amount. But there were legitimate arguments about a couple players being overall more effective despite Draisaitl's offensive production due to him giving up too many chances against 5v5.

 

[4EDM14OIL93]

I mean it depends on who you're talking about. Yea there were idiots who called him a liability despite being a plus player 5v5 and significantly raising the GF% of the Oilers when on the ice compared to off by a significant amount. But there were legitimate arguments about a couple players being overall more effective despite Draisaitl's offensive production due to him giving up too many chances against 5v5.

Fair enough

 

[pcruz]

It wasn't his plus minus that was an issue last year it was his underlying defensive metrics. Those are still poor this year, he's just getting unsustainable goaltending at ES. No one "cares about his plus minus" this year simply because he hasn't been in discussions for the Hart so it hasn't generally come up.

Of course not!
His linemate would be tied for 8th in league scoring if he hadn't scored a single goal.
He's also 2nd in league goals scored.

McDavid is so much more valuable than Draisaitl that the discussion just doesn't exist anymore.

As for Draisaitl himself, people who write him off as being a liability are wrong. Anyone who doesn't believe him to be a true star is also wrong. His defensive game is improving consistently as is the physical aspect.

I still expect him to get caught in points this year (as the gap has been closing), but I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Draisaitl ends the year in 2nd place for points.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I’ll take the reigning Art Ross, Lindsay and Hart Trophy winner.

 

[Mats13]

Drai. Which means he’ll have finished 4th, 1st, and 2nd in the last 3 scoring races.

Yet some will continue to beat the drum for lesser players.

Maybe because other players don’t get to rid shotgun with McDavid