Who will definately not be back next season

[mianjo]

I know Holden said that Dorian told him he would'nt be offered another contract.

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[Xspyrit]

Who SHOULD NOT be back :

- Pierre Dorion
- DJ smith & staff
- Cam Talbot
- Nick Holden
- Austin Watson
- Dylan Gambrell
- Patrick Brown

I'm ok with Gauthier and Kelly if they are 13th-14th. Brassard should be 12th

- Travis Hamonic only if he makes 1.5 AAV on a 1 year and takes a SMALLER role.

- Trade Alex DeBrincat for better forward depth, improve 2-way play and leave some cap space maneuver going forward


Still have no idea why we couldn't wait the offseason to unload Zaitsev... but picks didn't have much value to us during this whole rebuild so whatever

 

[Ice-Tray]

Clearly reading comprehension is an issue here. The title seems pretty clear.

By the sounds of it Talbot and Watson won’t be back in addition to Holden. Both seem to want multi year deals, Watson was very clear about that, and it sounded like the team wasn’t interested.

Watson did mention something about never say never in terms of if there was nothing on the UFA market, but I doubt the team would be interested in a circle back.

I would add that Brassard is unlikely to be back, simply due to how hard it will be to come back from this injury to once again be a guy looking for a PTO or 13th forward. Never say never, but I suspect he’ll retire.

Everyone else has a chance to return.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

I’m surprised that they even left the door open on Watson. Guy was a good pro since day one and I really respect everything he’s gone through…. But I don’t think he’s an NHL player anymore.

 

[bicboi64]

Don't think Holden, Watson or Talbot are back.

Hope Hamonic isn't back unless its a league minimum. His presence drags down our defensive stats whenever he's on the ice.

No need for Gambrell or Brown, we have internal options.

 

[GCK]

Who SHOULD NOT be back :

- Pierre Dorion
- DJ smith & staff
- Cam Talbot
- Nick Holden
- Austin Watson
- Dylan Gambrell
- Patrick Brown

I'm ok with Gauthier and Kelly if they are 13th-14th. Brassard should be 12th

- Travis Hamonic only if he makes 1.5 AAV on a 1 year and takes a SMALLER role.

- Trade Alex DeBrincat for better forward depth, improve 2-way play and leave some cap space maneuver going forward


Still have no idea why we couldn't wait the offseason to unload Zaitsev... but picks didn't have much value to us during this whole rebuild so whatever

I thought we unloaded Zaitsev to allow us to take a run at Chychrun?

 

[GCK]

Don't think Holden, Watson or Talbot are back.

Hope Hamonic isn't back unless its a league minimum. His presence drags down our defensive stats whenever he's on the ice.

No need for Gambrell or Brown, we have internal options.

Did you know the Sens PK was at 60% after Hamonic was injured ?

 

[bicboi64]

Did you know the Sens PK was at 60% after Hamonic was injured ?

Did you know Hamonic with Sandy has the highest xGA out of all our pairings, including on the PK?

 

[GCK]

Did you know Hamonic with Sandy has the highest xGA out of all our pairings, including on the PK?

I would completely expect that. Wouldn’t you expect that ?

 

[bicboi64]

I would completely expect that. Wouldn’t you expect that ?

I mean that's why I don't want Hamonic back unless its at a league min.

 

[GCK]

I mean that's why I don't want Hamonic back unless its at a league min.

Wouldn’t you expect the pair used as your shutdown pair and primary PK pair to have more xGA ?

 

[SpezDispenser]

That's slightly too bad about watson imo. Guy was a nice 4th liner who could pk and was a shot blocking warrior

 

[Golden_Jet]

Wouldn’t you expect the pair used as your shutdown pair and primary PK pair to have more xGA ?

I would, especially with the D zone starts.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That's slightly too bad about watson imo. Guy was a nice 4th liner who could pk and was a shot blocking warrior

I like Watty; He is a warrior but its probably best to let him explore free agency.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I like Watty; He is a warrior but its probably best to let him explore free agency.

Because of money or because you don't want him back? I don't see how he makes more than 1.2 to 1.5

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Because of money or because you don't want him back? I don't see how he makes more than 1.2 to 1.5

Term. He wants term and I would be reluctant to give him that.
He thinks he still has it . He lays it on the line and he fights (not always on the right side) .. offering him a 1 year 1.25 or so contract almost seems like an insult.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Term. He wants term and I would be reluctant to give him that.
He thinks he still has it . He lays it on the line and he fights (not always on the right side) .. offering him a 1 year 1.25 or so contract almost seems like an insult.

So...no to 2 years at 1.25 per? Seems market value for his kind of player

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

So...no to 2 years at 1.25 per? Seems market value for his kind of player

I'd go 1

 

[Ice-Tray]

So...no to 2 years at 1.25 per? Seems market value for his kind of player

The value is fine, but I don’t think we want to allocate the roster spot to him for 2 years. I think by that time we’ll want to have a look at guys like Ostapchuk etc…

To be honest I like what Watson brought, but if Kasty is a regular I’d like to see what Goat on his wing brings to the table on the 4th line. Watty fought and was a solid PKer, but he was slow and didn’t really fit our fast attack style.

I will miss his crushing hits, but I’m hoping Boucher can bring that with speed and some offence, Ostapchuk as well.

 

[SpezDispenser]

The value is fine, but I don’t think we want to allocate the roster spot to him for 2 years. I think by that time we’ll want to have a look at guys like Ostapchuk etc…

To be honest I like what Watson brought, but if Kasty is a regular I’d like to see what Goat on his wing brings to the table on the 4th line. Watty fought and was a solid PKer, but he was slow and didn’t really fit our fast attack style.

I will miss his crushing hits, but I’m hoping Boucher can bring that with speed and some offence, Ostapchuk as well.

That's fine, but one way or another I assume we'll want a veteran who can do the same as watson. I doubt that's gauthier, so we'll be replacing watson.

I guess some more speed won't hurt on line 4

 

[Ice-Tray]

That's fine, but one way or another I assume we'll want a veteran who can do the same as watson. I doubt that's gauthier, so we'll be replacing watson.

I guess some more speed won't hurt on line 4

I agree, but Kasty may be that guy now that he’s a full timer. There aren’t too many guys that fight and can play real minutes anymore.

 

[bicboi64]

I feel Kastelic will continue to get comfortable into that role. Not that I expect him to drop the gloves every few games, but his physicality will get better as well.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I agree, but Kasty may be that guy now that he’s a full timer. There aren’t too many guys that fight and can play real minutes anymore.

Kastelic is very efficient and a perfect 4th liner, but this lineup needs a guy who has been through wars before. Like a 4th line version of Giroux

 

[SpezDispenser]

I feel Kastelic will continue to get comfortable into that role. Not that I expect him to drop the gloves every few games, but his physicality will get better as well.

He's a guy that will have so many uses for us. Faceoffs, hitting, forechecking, pking, everything. Nice guy to sharpie in as 4th line C

 

[Ice-Tray]

Kastelic is very efficient and a perfect 4th liner, but this lineup needs a guy who has been through wars before. Like a 4th line version of Giroux

I don’t disagree, what about a guy like Maroon then. Perennial finals guy, and is reasonably tough….