Who scores more points: Matthews or Eichel?

[Incognito]

Great insight. Take your own advice

Matthews is not even close to being a powerplay specialist.

 

[wabagee]

Matthews is not even close to being a powerplay specialist.

Are you saying that’s not a good thing, most great players are really good on the power play.

 

[pcruz]

First of all I was asking a question so I didn’t put any words in anyone’s mouth, secondly you do realize how you responded makes it sound exactly like that’s what you meant right?

Only in a world where there are only 2 possible answers, and one would negate the other.

Which is weird.


There is a term for that false dilemma

 

[BlueBaron]

Again, tell me a player that scores more on the pp than 5v5? You’re making a point that not a single person disagrees with.

Your question got me curious so I looked it up.

A quick look at the top 10 power play goal scorers has Andreychuck at #1 just under 43%.
Number 10 was Ciccarelli at 38%.
Ovie just for fun is at 36% (#3 all time and climbing)
Auston Matthews 24.5 %

I think you can laugh that powerplay specialist guy out of here.

 

[Dache]

Your question got me curious so I looked it up.

A quick look at the top 10 power play goal scorers has Andreychuck at #1 just under 43%.
Number 10 was Ciccarelli at 38%.
Ovie just for fun is at 36% (#3 all time and climbing)
Auston Matthews 24.5 %

I think you can laugh that powerplay specialist guy out of here.

I’ve already said that post was ridiculous.

 

[BlueBaron]

I’ve already said that post was ridiculous.

I saw. just thought it was interesting.

 

[Incognito]

Are you saying that’s not a good thing, most great players are really good on the power play.

The term "powerplay specialist" is sometimes used to imply that a player pads their stats with the man advantage, and isn't as strong in 5 on 5 situations. I'm just pointing out that Matthews is one of the most effective 5 on 5 players out there, and his offensive production does not rely on the PP. Only about one quarter of his career points have come off the powerplay, which is less than most of his peers.

 

[MrThomas]

Eichel is better center man so i go with him

 

[leafsfan5]

Matthews is a PP specialist

He's literally 2nd in the league in even strength points (1 behind McDavid for first)

 

[wabagee]

The term "powerplay specialist" is sometimes used to imply that a player pads their stats with the man advantage, and isn't as strong in 5 on 5 situations. I'm just pointing out that Matthews is one of the most effective 5 on 5 players out there, and his offensive production does not rely on the PP. Only about one quarter of his career points have come off the powerplay, which is less than most of his peers.

If you suck on the pp you suck period.

 

[LeafsNation75]

The term "powerplay specialist" is sometimes used to imply that a player pads their stats with the man advantage, and isn't as strong in 5 on 5 situations. I'm just pointing out that Matthews is one of the most effective 5 on 5 players out there, and his offensive production does not rely on the PP. Only about one quarter of his career points have come off the powerplay, which is less than most of his peers.

Since Matthews rookie season he ranks 1st with 118 5v5 goals scored.

NHL Stats

 

[Incognito]

If you suck on the pp you suck period.

Matthews doesn't suck on the PP. But he's clearly not a powerplay specialist.

 

[Nosferatu]

Eichel more goals matthews more points

 

[Bedards Dad]

If you suck on the pp you suck period.

Since Matthews rookie season he ranks 1st with 118 5v5 goals scored.

NHL Stats

He is also 14th in PP goals since he entered the league, which sounds pretty good to me. I can't figure out how to do PPG/60 among players who have more than 100 minutes etc, but I would assume he's pretty damn high on that list as well.

NHL Stats

 

[Bedards Dad]

Eichel more goals matthews more points

If Eichel (2 goals in 12 games) ends up with more goals than Matthews (13 goals in 15 games) that would be one of the best 44 game streaks of all time.

 

[authentic]

Your question got me curious so I looked it up.

A quick look at the top 10 power play goal scorers has Andreychuck at #1 just under 43%.
Number 10 was Ciccarelli at 38%.
Ovie just for fun is at 36% (#3 all time and climbing)
Auston Matthews 24.5 %

I think you can laugh that powerplay specialist guy out of here.

A big reason why he has a low percentage of his points there has pretty much entirely to do with his amount of ice time there. He's an even strength beast but look up his powerplay time compared to other top scorers since he's been in the NHL.

 

[BlueBaron]

A big reason why he has a low percentage of his points there has pretty much entirely to do with his amount of ice time there. He's an evens strength beast but look up his powerplay time compared to other top scorers since he's been in the NHL.

I'm aware, I'm a Leaf fan.

 

[LeafsNation75]

If Eichel (2 goals in 12 games) ends up with more goals than Matthews (13 goals in 15 games) that would be one of the best 44 game streaks of all time.

I highly doubt Eichel will be able to do something like that because of Matthews lead over him in goal scoring.

 

[CatchyTune]

Eichel more goals matthews more points

uhhh... did you mean the other way around?

 

[Tage2Tuch]

Fun times right now, it’s a reverse of last year in December where Matthews was invisible in 7 of 10 games while eichel at the time was in game 16 of A 17 game point streak.

people need to chill, Matthews always races to 10-15 goals every season and eichels played two games against the best defensive team the last two years in three weeks. How do you get points when you’re not on the ice. Pretty much Every game he plays this strange, strange year is either against a contender or an amazing defensive team.

but have fun with this while you can.

matthews is clearly superior this year though, not really close.

 

[Tage2Tuch]

This thread has turned into nothing but a can of all the usual suspects who got butthurt when I d them how elite eichel was, who didn’t watch him and then when he wasn’t missing half a season due to an ankle injury showed the world.

last year he had a higher points per game then Matthews albeit close

in 16-17 he had a higher points per game then Matthews , in 17-8 they tied, they may of Tied or Matthews was ahead in 18-19
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the opposition both players face this year matters a lot. And the fact that Matthews is dancing around with marner against the lowly sens while eichel isn’t even playing hockey for three weeks and when he is he’s being shut out by sorokin and the top defensive team of the last two years.

 

[LeafsNation75]

uhhh... did you mean the other way around?

After tonight's game Matthews goal total increased to 14.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Lock this up.