Who is the BEST out of shape player of alltime?

blood gin

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Brett Hull.

Hull always seemed like he had an average build. Early in his career perhaps he didn't take his fitness as seriously as he should but I don't ever remember him being out of shape. Just kind of run of the mill

fwiw Gretzky's physique was never all that impressive. He was skinny with very light muscle definition. But if you look at his chest/shoulders/forearms etc. There really wasn't much there.
 
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blood gin

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Also Lyle Odelein and Turner Stevenson, two guys who always appeared to be skating in quicksand, were both kind of chunky.
 

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Hull always seemed like he had an average build. Early in his career perhaps he didn't take his fitness as seriously as he should but I don't ever remember him being out of shape. Just kind of run of the mill

fwiw Gretzky's physique was never all that impressive. He was skinny with very light muscle definition. But if you look at his chest/shoulders/forearms etc. There really wasn't much there.

That is not being out of shape, not being bulked. Gretzky was a finesse player, more muscles would have made him slower.
 

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Among netminders it is Turk Broda, one of the great goalies of all time and constantly overweight and overeating.

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The runner-up would be 4-time Stanley Cup champion dynasty netminder, Hart trophy finalist HHOFer: Gump Worsley, as he famously did everything he could to get out of practices and hated to sweat unless it was game time, at which time he would flip, flop and even use his unmasked face to stop pucks, working feverishly as long as the game was on!

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Brian Fogarty. He was incredibly unhealthy (due to alcohol addiction issues) for all of his NHL career. That he managed to have an NHL career at all with the way he was treating his body is incredible in itself. Had he been clean and with his nose to the grindstone, he undoubtedly would have been a star player -- maybe one of the best defencemen of his generation, even. Now he's just a sad footnote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Fogarty

I don't remember who it was (might have been Sundin?) that said that this guy, playing hungover, was still the best player in practice on a team with several hall of famers.
 

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Mario Lemieux I'd say. He may not look out of shape when he was playing, but he loved to mentioned in summers how he never worked out and drank wine and ate hot dogs.

Phil Kessel has the chubby face and the media saying he's out of shape, but his fitness tests with the Leafs were always made public and he posted great results which the media never seemed interested in publicizing much. At one point he was the 3rd best on the team at the same time everyone was calling him fat and out of shape.
 
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Brian Fogarty. He was incredibly unhealthy (due to alcohol addiction issues) for all of his NHL career. That he managed to have an NHL career at all with the way he was treating his body is incredible in itself. Had he been clean and with his nose to the grindstone, he undoubtedly would have been a star player -- maybe one of the best defencemen of his generation, even. Now he's just a sad footnote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Fogarty

I don't remember who it was (might have been Sundin?) that said that this guy, playing hungover, was still the best player in practice on a team with several hall of famers.

His 88-89 season in the OHL is just :amazed:
GP - 60
G - 47
A - 108
PTS - 155

I get it was the 80s and all but him doing that as a defenseman.
 

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Gumper, and possibly Carlyle. Hilariously, he once tested positive for PED's.
 

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From active, Gotta be dimitry Makarov.

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Season after season Makarov is simply out of shape, but he can play the KHL, isn't even that bad in there.

Also needs to be mentioned: Jere Karalahti, who used cocaine, Alcohol and other stuff and was hang over in the games, played the tough pre lockout NHL very well for an violent alcoholist. He was very talented, he never really trained until his late 30's. He actually dropped from NHL only because he declined to take part of NHL anti drug program again, after getting (not for first time) tested positive on heroin / cocaine. Despite all of these problems he actually played quite well in NHL and made a good career overall.

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Jere in his last years of career:
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At the last 5 yeras of his career, he actually god rid of drugs, partly even alcohol. Also started to train hard.

He is commonly known as a positive comeback-from-drugs story in Finland:
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He was probably high when he tied the game against Russia in World Championships when only 2 seconds was left of game time. I'll always remember Karalahti positively, what a lion, despite all of the attitude problems and other problems.
 
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