Gurglesons
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Yet you didn't respond in the other thread when people called you crazy for willing to do Lucic for Johnson.
Much easier to bury a 3 mil dollar winger than a 3 mil dollar defenseman.
Yet you didn't respond in the other thread when people called you crazy for willing to do Lucic for Johnson.
Folks might be calling him out more because of the reveal at the beginning of the season that he'd worked on his skating over the summer. Now everyone is focused on it. My issue isn't just his lack of speed, but also his decision making. I don't know if he just had better partners covering for him, or his medication is causing some brain fog or he's over thinking things or all of the above, but what made him a good defenseman was his hockey IQ and that hasn't been on display much this year.
This is BS. Both his rookie year being a fluke and the idea that you were the first person to not like Maatta. People here have ripped his skating for 3 years now. Like longer than you’ve been posting.
Very few people suggested trading Maatta until now.This is BS. Both his rookie year being a fluke and the idea that you were the first person to not like Maatta. People here have ripped his skating for 3 years now. Like longer than you’ve been posting.
Very few people suggested trading Maatta until now.
Do people only consider hockey IQ with the puck? A player is playing without it 90% of the game, and there is a chasm between Maatta and the other two guys in this poll in regards to positioning.Folks might be calling him out more because of the reveal at the beginning of the season that he'd worked on his skating over the summer. Now everyone is focused on it. My issue isn't just his lack of speed, but also his decision making. I don't know if he just had better partners covering for him, or his medication is causing some brain fog or he's over thinking things or all of the above, but what made him a good defenseman was his hockey IQ and that hasn't been on display much this year.
Get rid of both.Yet you didn't respond in the other thread when people called you crazy for willing to do Lucic for Johnson.
Olli hasn't been good since last year. This year it just progressed to bad as the league keeps trending towards being faster and it's one of those things that won't change back and favor Olli. West isn't as fast to that change so he can fit better there for a couple of seasons.Really strange to see that Oleksiak isn’t the clear cut number 1 in this poll. Really strange. Maatta has had a lot of bad games this season but has been good for most of his career. Oleksiak has also had a lot of bad games this season but really doesn’t have much career success as a back up like Maatta.
Olli hasn't been good since last year. This year it just progressed to bad as the league keeps trending towards being faster and it's one of those things that won't change back and favor Olli. West isn't as fast to that change so he can fit better there for a couple of seasons.
I'm honestly a little surprised at this poll. I wonder if people are considering salary cap and expectations in here. In that case, maata should be the vote. But just looking at the individual players, if you had all three at the same cap hit and had to pick two, I definitely wouldn't pick JJ and oleksiak.
Folks might be calling him out more because of the reveal at the beginning of the season that he'd worked on his skating over the summer. Now everyone is focused on it. My issue isn't just his lack of speed, but also his decision making. I don't know if he just had better partners covering for him, or his medication is causing some brain fog or he's over thinking things or all of the above, but what made him a good defenseman was his hockey IQ and that hasn't been on display much this year.
Olli can be manageable but at his cap hit you can get someone that is just as manageable at half the cap.I’ve missed a bit of hockey so haven’t seen as much of the bad as others but he’s still good or capable of being good. Because of his skating he needs to rely more on teammates being competent. He needs to pass to get out of danger he can’t skate it out.
I’m sure they’d trade him but JR will want good value in return or we’ll just keep him and hope he bounces back.
Might be early but having Riikola and Petterson does make it easier to trade him. I’d trade him for a centre, trade Brassard for a wing then bring in a steady bottom pair guy (and say goodbye to Big Rig).
Olli can be manageable but at his cap hit you can get someone that is just as manageable at half the cap.
That's my issue with him.
He has to get quicker or suddenly get smarter.He might get back to last seasons form but as most have said he’s a bad fit and with Riikola and Petterson coming through as smart defenders we don’t have to have a smart player with some big flaws (skating).
It’s a good time to see what his value is around the league. I imagine there are teams that like him. The Ducks have already said so but JR wanted a deal to get Montour which they declined.
I feel honored, and the voting is going exactly how I thought it would.We'll keep this between 3 Defensemen.
As it stands - Letang, Dumoulin and Pettersson have been solid.
Riikola is too raw to even be in this poll, so let's make it between the 3 in contention. Well, mostly Maatta and Johnson, but Oleksiak should be in this argument as well.
As Discussed in a previous thread...
@MrBurghundy
He has to get quicker or suddenly get smarter.
The thing is the league is starting to get faster. This is gonna get worse not better.He could (and probably will) do the later. He’s not getting quicker.