Who has a better shot: MacKinnon or McDavid?

[Muffin]

MacKinnon or McDavid?

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[Steven Toast]

Context.

Nathan Mackinnon:

• 525 GP, 190 goals, 0.36 GPG.
• 1896 shots, 3.6 shots per game, S% 10.0.

Connor McDavid

• 351 GP, 162 goals, 0.46 GPG.
• 1082 shots, 3.1 shots per game, S% 15.0.

So Mac shoots more per game, scores less per game. McDavids S% is 50% higher than Mack. A 10% shot is right around league average, while 15% is quite high.

 

[Voodoo Child]

 

[The Abusement Park]

Mackinnon has the better shot overall in the sense that he can beat goalies clean from just about anywhere. But McDavid is better at getting into positions where he can score easier goals and has a more accurate shot. Both are very different but effective shooters though.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

MacKinnon looks way cooler when he's shooting the puck but McDavid does a much better job of actually scoring on the shots he takes.

 

[A1LeafNation]

...shot at what?

lol

 

[Filthy Dangles]

In terms of pure marksmanship and shooting ability, I'd give the edge to MacKinnon. He has legit One-timer from the tops of the circles, and has a more lethal wrist shot from distance.

But he's not a better goal scorer. McDavid gets to the high danger areas better than anyone else and finishes as good as anyone else so he doesn't need as lethal a shot to rack up the goals.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Context.

Nathan Mackinnon:

• 525 GP, 190 goals, 0.36 GPG.
• 1896 shots, 3.6 shots per game, S% 10.0.

Connor McDavid

• 351 GP, 162 goals, 0.46 GPG.
• 1082 shots, 3.1 shots per game, S% 15.0.

So Mac shoots more per game, scores less per game. McDavids S% is 50% higher than Mack. A 10% shot is right around league average, while 15% is quite high.

thats flawed logic. MacKinnon is more of a volume shooter and takes more shots from distance, of course his Sh% will be Lower.

Does McD have a better shot than Ovechkin and his 12% career Sh%?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

MacKinnon can get shots off better which is a shooting skill in itself, but McDavid's shots go in more often

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

MacKinnon has a stronger shot yet McDavid will score more goals because there's more to goalscoring than sniping.

They way you posed the question guarantees MacKinnon will win. If you had asked "who is the better goal scorer" things would be different.

 

[The Abusement Park]

MacKinnon has a stronger shot yet McDavid will score more goals because there's more to goalscoring than sniping.

They way you posed the question guarantees MacKinnon will win. If you had asked "who is the better goal scorer" things would be different.

I don't know if either one is a better goal scorer than the other really. I mean since Mack broke out him and McDavid have been 40 goal scorers and the difference between them in the last 3 seasons isn't huge at all:

McDavid: 116 goals in 224 games= .51ggp

MacKinnon: 115 goals in 225 games.

In fact McDavid has 1 more goal in 1 less game than MacKinnon over the last 3 seasons, so they are equally as good of goal scorers as each other. They just score their goals in very different ways.

 

[HarryLime]

Mack for me

 

[Fataldogg]

MacKinnon has a better shot, but McDavid is still an overall better goal scorer.

 

[Foppberg]

MacKinnon has a harder shot, McDavid is smarter about his shots.

 

[El Travo]

MacKinnon has a better shot but McDavid consistently puts himself in positions where it doesn't matter how good his shot is.

 

[780il]

Mackinnon has the better shot, mostly because of Mcdavid pretty much refusing to one time the puck from the circles on the pp and rarely shooting it from distance.

29 better shot, 97 better goal scorer.

 

[Regal]

MacKinnon looks way cooler when he's shooting the puck but McDavid does a much better job of actually scoring on the shots he takes.

Shooting percentage alone doesn't really equate to a better shot unless the two players are shooting in very similar circumstances though.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Shooting percentage alone doesn't really equate to a better shot unless the two players are shooting in very similar circumstances though.

I'm not using shooting percentage alone; McDavid beats him in shooting percent above expected by every model I've looked at.

 

[Iggys Dome]

I'm not using shooting percentage alone; McDavid beats him in shooting percent above expected by every model I've looked at.

And this equates to him having a better shot how? What if he’s simply better at getting into position/using his speed to get into better positions to score? I’m not sure how purely looking at statistical models helps in this context.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

And this equates to him having a better shot how? What if he’s simply better at getting into position/using his speed to get into better positions to score? I’m not sure how purely looking at statistical models helps in this context.

because it takes into account how many goals he'd score if he were an average shooter based on where he shoots from on the ice, and he outperforms that number

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

And this equates to him having a better shot how? What if he’s simply better at getting into position/using his speed to get into better positions to score? I’m not sure how purely looking at statistical models helps in this context.

It helps because these models account for how good the position he is in to score is.

 

[Iggys Dome]

It helps because these models account for how good the position he is in to score is.

because it takes into account how many goals he'd score if he were an average shooter based on where he shoots from on the ice, and he outperforms that number

What are these models called? Genuinely curious, I've never heard of them.

 

[34]

MacKinnon’s shot is way better.

McDavid’s shot is not his strong point.

 

[Iggys Dome]

This is one of the best shots I've ever seen.

 

[thadd]

Mackinnon has a better shot, but McDavid will always have the better shooting %.
LOL I love this. This is hilarious.