Who had the worst decline this season?
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Whaddagoal
Junktime season...
You were 100% spot on from your description of Tierney to me at the start of the season, I forgot what thread that was in originally, but I remember well the dialogue between us in that thread.
He is absolutely a vanilla player. No strengths of any sort stand out. He potted some production near the last quarter of the season but was mostly low event guy all season.
Granted he didn't play a lot early, And he looked better as the season closed, but completely a vanilla guy. No glaring positives and not completely negative but kind of just there.
Don't hate the guy of course, but I would have kept Jesper Boqvist around.
To the OG thread - on the Devils there was a huge drop in play by John Marino and Jonas Siegenthaler to expectations. Hope this year was an anomaly.
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Hyman has had two big seasons in a row, so it's hard to qualify this is a career year. He actually had more points last year.
I think we all know the main reason for the hyped up numbers, but a career year usually infers that there is one outlier of a season, but that's not the case here.
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Yeah and I don't see him taking less than 8mil next year. Leafs will have trouble keeping him
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It's too bad that a guy with that much talent has some sort of issues going on that have led him to wash out from three different teams.
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The main potential outlier for Hyman is that the puck actually went into the net this year. He scored like 15 goals below expected last season and also had 8 or 9 goals called back on review.
I do think he basically spent his entire offseason working on finishing around the net but we'll see if he goes back to getting robbed by goalies next year. McDavid will also probably go back to shooting a bit more next year which could lead to fewer Hyman goals.
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His xGF last year was 51. Never seen a player get owned by goalies so regularly.
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Meh, his max was 52 on a better line
Guys like Robertson and Buchnevic took production hits but theyre still solid players. Maybe just over performed for a bit
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Pittsburgh have Karlsson, but I also feel Jeff Carter are starting to really decline. Down to 15 points this year from 29 last year and 45 the year before that. Quite normal given he is 39.
Other guys worth mentioning are Kuznetsov from 55 points to 24 points for Caps+Hurricanes.
Other guys worth mentioning are Kuznetsov from 55 points to 24 points for Caps+Hurricanes.
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It was entirely due to the powerplay though where he went from 36 to 18 points. At even strength he was just as good as last year this despite having a wide assortment of linemates. If the Pens powerplay wasn't straight up trash he probably would have been at a point a game.
He also lead the leauge in takeaways, so while its true he's not the dominant force of his younger years his decline and usefulness wasn't as bad as the numbers initially suggest
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Well it was his final season after all.
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This is a fair assessment of Tage.
Similarly to what happened to some Buffalo players this year, I see the same thing happening with Detroit next season.
Gonna be a rough regression to the mean next season for Raymond and Larkin. 19% and 14.9%? Yikes
I'm not sure if you're trying to use my logic against me to bait me into making this about Detroit or not, but sure I'll bite.
Larkin has been essentially ppg the last 3 seasons. He was used pretty exclusively in that middle position on the PP for one timers. Do I expect his shooting % to come down? Yes. Am I worried about him at all? No.
Raymond took massive steps all over with his game. He went from a fringe top 6 player to a legit first liner. I expect his shooting % to also come down but he and Larkin are the last two players we're worried about on the team at this point.
A very strange dig as these two are essentially the last two players Detroit is worried about. I think Fabbri, Compher, needing better dmen/goaltending, are all much bigger areas of concern.
Luckily, 2C, dmen, goaltending, and depth wingers are all strengths in our farm. Those holes will hopefully be filled by some of Danielson, Kasper, Edvinsson, Johansson, ASP, Mazur, Cossa, Augustine, etc these next 1-3 years.
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Hard to argue mathematically against Karlsson and Nuge, but I don't know that many are surprised. Guys had personal bests last year and went back to normal.
Probably already mentioned, but TJ went from 1st pairing last year in the playoffs to healthy scratch.
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