Proposal: Who do you offer-sheet this offseason?
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TorontoTrades
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Montreal signs Svech for a reasonable price and Carolina sends another gift basket.
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I'd love to have Garland but i don't think the offer sheet matches what he's worth.
$4,059,323 -$6,088,980 = 1st + 3rd (which is fine) but 6m is to much and any sensible number would probably be matched by Vancovuer.
$4,059,323 -$6,088,980 = 1st + 3rd (which is fine) but 6m is to much and any sensible number would probably be matched by Vancovuer.
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Nobody. The press and fans like to talk about offering sheeting players, but GMs so rarely do and I think it's because they don't want to burn bridges with other teams
kp61c
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Pettersson or Svechnikov. Though Svechnikov is risky, he has been regressing under Brind'Amour lately.
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If the canes were willing to sign reasonable deals they wouldn't have just given away their starting goalie.
It's also funny to see a leafs fan laughing at a GM because he signs RFAs to reasonable deals.
None are worth offer-sheeting, IMO.
Vancouver cleared a lot of space with the OEL trade. They, effectively, have around 22M with Ferland on IR. They have Garland, Dickinson, Juolevi, Pettersson, Hughes, and some extras(1D +1F). It looks worse than it is. Hughes can't be offer sheeted, which can drive down the price. Juolevi is getting like..800KM. Garland is going to get 5M, Hawryluk (or a replacement) is getting 800K, Hamonic (or a replacement) is getting 1.4-1.6M, and Dickinson like 1.8-2M, at worst. That probably leaves 11M for Pettersson and Hughes. You can bridge them both for that much or you can dump Holtby to find room. It would be much worse if Hughes could be offer sheeted, but he can't
NYI is misleading, Boychuk's 6M is going on LTIR, which gives them almost 23.5M in space. All they need is Pelech, Beauvillier, Sorokin, and 1F and 1D for depth. They have room to ADD players at this point, much less lose some.
Carolina is interesting because of their internal budget. If they lose Dougie, they'll have budget to match anything for Svechnikov. Things get interesting with Scechnikov if they try and find a way to keep Hamilton. At that point they're probably paying someone in picks to take on Gardiner and maybe selling Nino Niederreiter. You can make their life hard with an offer sheet, but in the long term it won't hurt them(because the more you front load it, the more salary it opens late in the contract for them), and in the short term the can still create room.
Tampa: I'm not sure they care. If you want to give him a 4M offersheet, they'll take the 2nd round pick and thank you.
NYR: I assume you meant Igor Shesterkin. It is never a good idea to go to war with the richest team in the league, especially when they have 20M in cap space. They have all the room they need. This year. The time to f*** them over is next year when they need to figure out how to pay Zibanejad, Strome, Fox, Blais, Kakko, Gauthier, Kravstov, (plus Chytil and Shesterkin new salaries this year) with only 40M and still have a full team. Then it might get tight.
Minnesota is the one I'd be interested in. 29M seems like a lot, but Fiala and Kaprizov might eat a big chunk of that (say 1/2?) and they still need 3 forwards and 4 defenseman after that. Hard to have 7 good players with only 13-14M to work with. The real issues for them start in 2022, 2023, and 2024.
Edit: I'll add that you can really put NYR in a bad spot with big offers to BOTH of their RFAs. If you make them add 12M for Chytil and Shesterskin they're basically screwed next season. That would leave thee with only 30M for Zibanejad, Strome, Fox, Blais, Kakko, Gauthier, Kravstov, and Georgiev.
Vancouver cleared a lot of space with the OEL trade. They, effectively, have around 22M with Ferland on IR. They have Garland, Dickinson, Juolevi, Pettersson, Hughes, and some extras(1D +1F). It looks worse than it is. Hughes can't be offer sheeted, which can drive down the price. Juolevi is getting like..800KM. Garland is going to get 5M, Hawryluk (or a replacement) is getting 800K, Hamonic (or a replacement) is getting 1.4-1.6M, and Dickinson like 1.8-2M, at worst. That probably leaves 11M for Pettersson and Hughes. You can bridge them both for that much or you can dump Holtby to find room. It would be much worse if Hughes could be offer sheeted, but he can't
NYI is misleading, Boychuk's 6M is going on LTIR, which gives them almost 23.5M in space. All they need is Pelech, Beauvillier, Sorokin, and 1F and 1D for depth. They have room to ADD players at this point, much less lose some.
Carolina is interesting because of their internal budget. If they lose Dougie, they'll have budget to match anything for Svechnikov. Things get interesting with Scechnikov if they try and find a way to keep Hamilton. At that point they're probably paying someone in picks to take on Gardiner and maybe selling Nino Niederreiter. You can make their life hard with an offer sheet, but in the long term it won't hurt them(because the more you front load it, the more salary it opens late in the contract for them), and in the short term the can still create room.
Tampa: I'm not sure they care. If you want to give him a 4M offersheet, they'll take the 2nd round pick and thank you.
NYR: I assume you meant Igor Shesterkin. It is never a good idea to go to war with the richest team in the league, especially when they have 20M in cap space. They have all the room they need. This year. The time to f*** them over is next year when they need to figure out how to pay Zibanejad, Strome, Fox, Blais, Kakko, Gauthier, Kravstov, (plus Chytil and Shesterkin new salaries this year) with only 40M and still have a full team. Then it might get tight.
Minnesota is the one I'd be interested in. 29M seems like a lot, but Fiala and Kaprizov might eat a big chunk of that (say 1/2?) and they still need 3 forwards and 4 defenseman after that. Hard to have 7 good players with only 13-14M to work with. The real issues for them start in 2022, 2023, and 2024.
Edit: I'll add that you can really put NYR in a bad spot with big offers to BOTH of their RFAs. If you make them add 12M for Chytil and Shesterskin they're basically screwed next season. That would leave thee with only 30M for Zibanejad, Strome, Fox, Blais, Kakko, Gauthier, Kravstov, and Georgiev.
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SI90
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Please remove Sorokin name from that team. He’s an islander through and Through Yuck
As a Sens fan...
You can probably offer sheet Tkachuk, and he probably would accept.
If you OS 8M x 5 years, make it all signing bonus.. you're definitely getting him along with all our broken hearts.
And it only costs you a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks
You can probably offer sheet Tkachuk, and he probably would accept.
If you OS 8M x 5 years, make it all signing bonus.. you're definitely getting him along with all our broken hearts.
And it only costs you a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks
SI90
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Peterson from Vancouver is a good target but offer sheeting isn’t really a thing in the real world.
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Dahlin. Four year deal to take him right to UFA, just to be a dick.
I think the best targets are the guys who haven't broken out yet. You want to find the next Mangiapane, that's where the value is. Guys like Thomas, Batherson, Timmins, Bellows, Steel, Fabbro, Peeke, Middlestadt would be good targets. Preferably the later drafts picks to avoid sunk cost fallacy. You basically overpay them now by a million or so in the hope that they out-perform the deal.
I think the best targets are the guys who haven't broken out yet. You want to find the next Mangiapane, that's where the value is. Guys like Thomas, Batherson, Timmins, Bellows, Steel, Fabbro, Peeke, Middlestadt would be good targets. Preferably the later drafts picks to avoid sunk cost fallacy. You basically overpay them now by a million or so in the hope that they out-perform the deal.
I took it as that being a CBJ fan and losing Panarin, Nash to the Rangers killed me. So I understand the distaste for the Rangers
There have been two offer sheets in 9 years. There's a reason GMs don't do it.
Gr8CornHolio
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If you want to offer sheet chytil for that amount and give up your 1st and 3rd round, be my guest you can have him!!
Please hoping GM’s do try that
Djp
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Buffalo will match
theyhave Power, Samuelson, bryson, and Johnson at LD
they could just trade him after a calendar year and get a haul filling any possible holes.
the low level players are the more volt er able ones at a max 3rd or 2nd round comp against tight cap teams
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Is Dahlin really good, though? I know +/- is the most hated stat and with good reason(s), but -36 in the 56 games? Are you sure he is that much better than the rest of the team?
I really haven't watched much Sabre-hockey this season if you ask.
Anyhow, it sounds like a splendid way for him to get away.
Djp
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dahlin is really good. He was on 3rd HC. Kruger wanted him to not play his style. After coaching change Granato let him play.
do they sign him to 6+ yrs or a 1-2 yr bridge.
