Who can build the best historic hockey team?

[Elvis P]

All players are eligible. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 Dmen, 12 forwards, and a coach. This is a point system draft. The point cost of the players are listed below and are the player's rank. Gretzky costs 1 point, Jacques Lemaire costs 190 points, and all unlisted players cost 200 points. What prevents you from drafting the top 20 players of all time? You must spend at least 3,000 points on 20 players. You can spend more than 3,000 points. The coach is free. Please list your draft picks' point costs so I can check out your strategy.

Rank	Player	Position	Born	Nation	Birth City
1	Wayne Gretzky	C	1961	Canada	Brantford, Ontario
2	Gordie Howe	RW	1928	Canada	Floral, Saskatchewan
3	Bobby Orr	D	1948	Canada	Parry Sound, Ontario
4	Mario Lemieux	C	1965	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
5	Bobby Hull	LW	1939	Canada	Point Anne, Ontario
6	Jean Beliveau	C	1931	Canada	Trois-Rivieres, Quebec
7	Patrick Roy	G	1965	Canada	Quebec City, Quebec
8	Doug Harvey	D	1924	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
9	Maurice Richard	RW	1921	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
10	Ray Bourque	D	1960	Canada	Saint-Laurent, Quebec
11	Howie Morenz	C	1902	Canada	Mitchell, Ontario
12	Sidney Crosby	C	1987	Canada	Halifax, Nova Scotia
13	Dominik Hasek	G	1965	Czech Republic	Pardubice, Czechoslovakia
14	Eddie Shore	D	1902	Canada	Fort Qu'Appelle, Northwest Territories
15	Nicklas Lidstrom	D	1970	Sweden	Krylbo, Sweden
16	Jaromir Jagr	RW	1972	Czech Republic	Kladno, Czechoslovakia
17	Red Kelly	D / C	1927	Canada	Simcoe, Ontario
18	Denis Potvin	D	1953	Canada	Vanier, Ontario
19	Jacques Plante	G	1929	Canada	Notre-Dame-du-Mont-Carmel, Quebec
20	Frank Nighbor	C	1893	Canada	Pembroke, Ontario
21	Mark Messier	LW / C	1961	Canada	Edmonton, Alberta
22	Alex Ovechkin	LW / RW	1985	Russia	Moscow, Soviet Union
23	Guy Lafleur	RW	1951	Canada	Thurso, Quebec
24	Stan Mikita	C	1940	Canada	Sokolce, Slovak Republic
25	Viacheslav Fetisov	D	1958	Russia	Moscow, Soviet Union
26	Sergei Makarov	RW	1958	Russia	Chelyabinsk, Soviet Union
27	Phil Esposito	C	1942	Canada	Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
28	Glenn Hall	G	1931	Canada	Humboldt, Saskatchewan
29	Bobby Clarke	C	1949	Canada	Flin Flon, Manitoba
30	Martin Brodeur	G	1972	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
31	Bryan Trottier	C	1956	Canada	Val Marie, Saskatchewan
32	Joe Sakic	C	1969	Canada	Burnaby, British Columbia
33	Cyclone Taylor	D / R	1884	Canada	Tara, Ontario
34	Bill Cook	RW	1895	Canada	Brantford, Ontario
35	Terry Sawchuk	G	1929	Canada	Winnipeg, Manitoba
36	Mike Bossy	RW	1957	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
37	Larry Robinson	D	1951	Canada	Winchester, Ontario
38	Ted Lindsay	LW	1925	Canada	Renfrew, Ontario
39	Newsy Lalonde	C	1887	Canada	Cornwall, Ontario
40	Steve Yzerman	C	1965	Canada	Cranbrook, British Columbia
41	Chris Chelios	D	1962	United States	Chicago, Illinois
42	Frank Boucher	C	1901	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
43	Valeri Kharlamov	LW	1948	Russia	Moscow, Soviet Union
44	King Clancy	D	1902	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
45	Syl Apps	C	1915	Canada	Paris, Ontario
46	Ken Dryden	G	1947	Canada	Hamilton, Ontario
47	Brad Park	D	1948	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
48	Paul Coffey	D	1961	Canada	Weston, Ontario
49	Henri Richard	C	1936	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
50	Vladislav Tretiak	G	1952	Russia	Orudyevo, Soviet Union
51	Peter Forsberg	C	1973	Sweden	Ornskoldsvik, Sweden
52	Evgeni Malkin	C	1986	Russia	Magnitogorsk, Soviet Union
53	Milt Schmidt	C	1918	Canada	Kitchener, Ontario
54	Pierre Pilote	D	1931	Canada	Kenogami, Quebec
55	Charlie Conacher	RW	1909	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
56	Frank Brimsek	G	1915	United States	Eveleth, Minnesota
57	Sprague Cleghorn	D	1890	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
58	Ted Kennedy	C	1925	Canada	Port Colborne, Ontario
59	Chris Pronger	D	1974	Canada	Dryden, Ontario
60	Bernie Geoffrion	RW	1931	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
61	Earl Seibert	D	1911	Canada	Berlin, Ontario
62	Andy Bathgate	RW	1932	Canada	Winnipeg, Manitoba
63	Marcel Dionne	C	1951	Canada	Drummondville, Quebec
64	Scott Stevens	D	1964	Canada	Kitchener, Ontario
65	Tim Horton	D	1930	Canada	Cochrane, Ontario
66	Georges Vezina	G	1887	Canada	Chicoutimi, Quebec
67	Al MacInnis	D	1963	Canada	Inverness, Nova Scotia
68	Dickie Moore	LW	1931	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
69	Teemu Selanne	RW	1970	Finland	Helsinki, Finland
70	Anatoli Firsov	LW	1941	Russia	Moscow, Soviet Union
71	Frank Mahovlich	LW	1938	Canada	Timmins, Ontario
72	Joe Malone	C	1890	Canada	Quebec City, Quebec
73	Dit Clapper	RW / D	1907	Canada	Newmarket, Ontario
74	Clint Benedict	G	1892	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
75	Charlie Gardiner	G	1904	Canada	Edinburgh, Scotland
76	Jari Kurri	RW	1960	Finland	Helsinki, Finland
77	Max Bentley	C	1920	Canada	Delisle, Saskatchewan
78	Aurele Joliat	LW	1901	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
79	Cy Denneny	LW	1891	Canada	Farran's Point, Ontario
80	Brett Hull	RW	1964	United States	Belleville, Ontario
81	Elmer Lach	C	1918	Canada	Nokomis, Saskatchewan
82	Bill Durnan	G	1916	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
83	Turk Broda	G	1914	Canada	Brandon, Manitoba
84	Borje Salming	D	1951	Sweden	Kiruna, Sweden
85	Ed Belfour	G	1965	Canada	Carman, Manitoba
86	Boris Mikhailov	RW	1944	Russia	Moscow, Soviet Union
87	Bill Cowley	C	1912	Canada	Bristol, Quebec
88	Sergei Fedorov	C / D	1969	Russia	Pskov, Soviet Union
89	Zdeno Chara	D	1977	Slovakia	Trencin, Czechoslovakia
90	Bill Gadsby	D	1927	Canada	Calgary, Alberta
91	Joe Thornton	C	1979	Canada	St. Thomas, Ontario
92	Nels Stewart	C	1902	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
93	Patrick Kane	RW	1988	United States	Buffalo, New York
94	Duncan Keith	D	1983	Canada	Winnipeg, Manitoba
95	Mark Howe	LW / D	1955	United States	Detroit, Michigan
96	Eric Lindros	C	1973	Canada	London, Ontario
97	Brian Leetch	D	1968	United States	Corpus Christi, Texas
98	Martin St. Louis	RW	1975	Canada	Laval, Quebec
99	Dave Keon	C	1940	Canada	Noranda, Quebec
100	Sid Abel	C	1918	Canada	Melville, Saskatchewan

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101	Norm Ullman	C	1935	Canada	Provost, Alberta
102	Alexander Maltsev	C / RW	1949	Russia	Kirovo-Chepetsk, Soviet Union
103	Jarome Iginla	RW	1977	Canada	Edmonton, Alberta
104	Vladimir Martinec	RW	1949	Czech Republic	Lomnice nad Popelkou, Czechoslovakia
105	Eddie Gerard	D / LW	1890	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
106	Henrik Lundqvist	G	1982	Sweden	Are, Sweden
107	Russell Bowie	R / C	1880	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
108	Tony Esposito	G	1943	Canada	Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
109	Erik Karlsson	D	1990	Sweden	Landsbro, Sweden
110	Drew Doughty	D	1989	Canada	London, Ontario
111	Roy Worters	G	1900	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
112	Doug Gilmour	C	1963	Canada	Kingston, Ontario
113	Johnny Bower	G	1924	Canada	Prince Albert, Saskatchewan
114	Jiri Holecek	G	1944	Czech Republic	Prague, Czechoslovakia
115	Toe Blake	LW	1912	Canada	Coniston, Ontario
116	Valeri Vasiliev	D	1949	Russia	Gorky, Soviet Union
117	Bill Quackenbush	D	1922	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
118	Peter Stastny	C	1956	Slovakia	Bratislava, Czechoslovakia
119	Serge Savard	D	1946	Canada	Landrienne, Quebec
120	Ron Francis	C	1963	Canada	Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
121	Ivan Johnson	D	1898	Canada	Winnipeg, Manitoba
122	Roberto Luongo	G	1979	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
123	Busher Jackson	LW / D	1911	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
124	Bernie Parent	G	1945	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
125	Jack Stewart	D	1917	Canada	Pilot Mound, Manitoba
126	Alex Delvecchio	C / LW	1931	Canada	Fort William, Ontario
127	Vladimir Krutov	LW	1960	Russia	Moscow, Soviet Union
128	Pavel Datsyuk	C	1978	Russia	Sverdlovsk, Soviet Union
129	Pavel Bure	RW	1971	Russia	Moscow, Soviet Union
130	Connor McDavid	C	1997	Canada	Richmond Hill, Ontario
131	Hugh Lehman	G	1885	Canada	Pembroke, Ontario
132	Gilbert Perreault	C	1950	Canada	Victoriaville, Quebec
133	Scott Niedermayer	D	1973	Canada	Edmonton, Alberta
134	Adam Oates	C	1962	Canada	Weston, Ontario
135	Guy Lapointe	D	1948	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
136	Doug Bentley	LW	1916	Canada	Delisle, Saskatchewan
137	Rod Langway	D	1957	United States	Formosa, Taiwan
138	Tommy Phillips	LW	1883	Canada	Rat Portage, Ontario
139	Marcel Pronovost	D	1930	Canada	Lac-a-la-Tortue, Quebec
140	George Hainsworth	G	1893	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
141	Mike Modano	C	1970	United States	Livonia, Michigan
142	Patrice Bergeron	C	1985	Canada	Ancienne-Lorette, Quebec
143	Syd Howe	LW/C	1911	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
144	Sweeney Schriner	LW	1911	Russia	Saratov, Soviet Union
145	Cecil Thompson	G	1903	Canada	Sandon, British Columbia
146	Victor Hedman	D	1990	Sweden	Ornskoldsvik, Sweden
147	Paul Kariya	LW	1974	Canada	Vancouver, British Columbia
148	Marty Barry	C	1905	Canada	Quebec City, Quebec
149	Vladimir Petrov	C	1949	Russia	Krasnogorsk, Soviet Union
150	Hod Stuart	C	1879	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
151	Ebbie Goodfellow	D/C	1907	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
152	Hooley Smith	C/RW	1903	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
153	Jacques Laperriere	D	1941	Canada	Rouyn, Quebec
154	Dale Hawerchuk	C	1963	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
155	Jan Suchy	D	1944	Czech Republic	Havlíčkův Brod, Czechoslovakia
156	Shea Weber	D	1985	Canada	Sicamous, British Columbia
157	Marian Hossa	RW	1979	Slovakia	Stara Lubovna, Czechoslovakia
158	Jonathan Toews	C	1988	Canada	Winnipeg, Manitoba
159	Mickey MacKay	C/W	1894	Canada	Chelsey, Ontario
160	Johnny Bucyk	LW	1935	Canada	Edmonton, Alberta
161	Anze Kopitar	C	1987	Slovenia	Jesenice, Slovenia
162	Georges Boucher	D/W	1896	Canada	Ottawa, Ontario
163	Bryan Hextall	RW	1913	Canada	Grenfell, Saskatchewan
164	Henrik Zetterberg	C/LW	1980	Sweden	Njurunda, Sweden
165	Ernie Johnson	D/LW	1886	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
166	Mats Sundin	C	1971	Sweden	Bromma, Sweden
167	Frank Fredrickson	C	1895	Canada	Winnipeg, Manitoba
168	Alexei Kasatonov	D	1959	Russia	Leningrad, USSR
169	Vaclav Nedomansky	C	1944	Czech Republic	Hodonin, Czechoslovakia
170	Steven Stamkos	C	1990	Canada	Markham, Ontario
171	Lionel Conacher	D	1901	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
172	Mark Recchi	RW	1968	Canada	Kamloops, British Columbia
173	J.C. Tremblay	D	1939	Canada	Bagotville, Quebec
174	Jean Ratelle	C	1940	Canada	Lac St-Jean, Quebec
175	Luc Robitaille	LW	1966	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
176	Denis Savard	C	1961	Canada	Pointe Gatineau, Quebec
177	Babe Siebert	D/LW	1904	Canada	Plattsville, Ontario
178	Babe Dye	RW	1898	Canada	Hamilton, Ontario
179	Grant Fuhr	G	1962	Canada	Spruce Grove, Alberta
180	Igor Larionov	C	1960	Russia	Voskresensk, USSR
181	Rob Blake	D	1969	Canada	Simcoe, Ontario
182	Duke Keats	C	1895	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
183	Michel Goulet	LW	1960	Canada	Peribonka, Quebec
184	Carl Brewer	D	1938	Canada	Toronto, Ontario
185	Carey Price	G	1987	Canada	Anahim Lake, British Columbia
186	Billy Smith	G	1950	Canada	Perth, Ontario
187	Nikita Kucherov	LW	1993	Russia	Maykop, Russian Federation
188	Frantisek Pospisil	D	1944	Czech Republic	Unhošť, Bohemia and Moravia
189	Emile "Butch" Bouchard	D	1919	Canada	Montreal, Quebec
190	Jacques Lemaire	C	1945	Canada	LaSalle, Quebec

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[JackSlater]

Perreault 132 Gretzky 1 Kurri 76
McDavid 130 Beliveau 6 Howe 2
Krutov 127 Larionov 180 Makarov 26
Zetterberg 164 Lemaire 190 Bergeron 142

Orr 3 MacInnis 67
Bourque 10 Weber 156
Karlsson 109 Bouchard 189

Bower 113
Price 185

2008

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Perreault 132 Gretzky 1 Kurri 76
McDavid 130 Beliveau 6 Howe 2
Krutov 127 Larionov 180 Makarov 26
Zetterberg 164 Lemaire 190 Bergeron 142

Orr 3 MacInnis 67
Bourque 10 Weber 156
Karlsson 109 Bouchard 189

Bower 113
Price 185

2008

Love your team, but you’re about 1000 points off the OP’s benchmark.

 

[JackSlater]

Love your team, but you’re about 1000 points off the OP’s benchmark.

Since I went for 2000 points, I'm certainly way off. Might try again for 3000. As it's based on the top 200 list they are making, I assume, I might wait until the final ten expensive players show up rather than go for random unlisted players.

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Well, the 3000 points are really hard to make. If I want Gretzky on it, the rest of the team must average at least a 157,8 rank. If I want Abel (#100), the rest must average a 152,6 rank. Might as well say “create a roster out of the 101-200 best players according to HoH” for this experiment.

Edit: I feel that 2500 or 2000 points would be plenty challenging and less of a struggle, however I sympathize with it if the point was to force us to educate ourselves on the 150-200th ranked players.

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

And this is what I managed for 2500 points (2521 to be exact, if my maths worked out right). Flipped Makarov for Bure but couldn’t be arsed to continue for 3000:

Krutov 127 - Larionov 180 - Bure 129
Kucherov 187 - McDavid 130 - Hossa 157
Perreault 132 - D. Savard 176 - Jagr 16
Lindsay 38 - Forsberg 51 - Howe 2

Fetisov 25 - Kasatonov 168
Hedman 146 - Karlsson 109
Pospisil 188 - Bouchard 189

Price 185
Smith 186

A great unit, an awesome youthful line with a defensive conscience, a fun line, and a hard working mean line. Then a great defensive tandem and a cheap one, plus the cheapest goalies but I bet they’ll get the job done.

 

[VanIslander]

Given they're force multipliers:

Gretzky 1
Orr 3
Hasek 13

and Gordie Howe does everything 2

So,... to get to 3000... that's 200×14 players + 181 for 2 players

21 Messier
163 Zetterberg

The 200 club: Cournoyer, Balderis, Fleury, Olmstead, Peca, Fleury, Giacomin, Murphy, Pulford, Reardon, Johnson, Giacomin, Coulter, Sittler

Team VanIslander

coach Anatoli Tarasov

Henrik Zetterberg - Wayne Gretzky (C) - Yvan Cournoyer
Ted Lindsay - Mark Messier (A) - Gordie Howe
Bert Olmstead - Darryl Sittler - Helmuts Balderis
Esa Tikkanen - Michael Peca - Theo Fleury

Harvey Pulford - Bobby Orr (A)
Tom Johnson - Ken Reardon
Art Coulter - Larry Murphy

Dominik Hasek
Eddie Giacomin
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A 3003-point team.

 

[MadLuke]

Robitaille 175 Gretzky 1 Recchi 172
Kucherov 187 McDavid 130 Stamkos 170
Zetterberg 164 Kopitar 161 Hossa 157
Lemaire 190 Sundin 166 Bergeron 142

Orr 3 Blake 181
Weber 156 Hedman 146
Emile Bouchard 189 Laperriere 153

Price 185
Smith 186

That would be 3011, McDavid at the same price than option like Guy Lapointe is really a good price.

 

[Elvis P]

Well, the 3000 points are really hard to make. If I want Gretzky on it, the rest of the team must average at least a 157,8 rank. If I want Abel (#100), the rest must average a 152,6 rank. Might as well say “create a roster out of the 101-200 best players according to HoH” for this experiment. ...

I thought the same thing and made a team captained by Abel, then my friend made a team led by Orr and Mario that was similar to the teams made by VI and Mad Luke, and I was humbled.

 

[seventieslord]

This is really just about finding "value picks" - players who you personally feel are underrated compared to what this board's panel thinks - or, finding sweet spots in the list where the players clustered in a certain range seem to make more sense than others that cost 10% more or 10% fewer points than they do.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Robitaille 175 Gretzky 1 Recchi 172
Kucherov 187 McDavid 130 Stamkos 170
Zetterberg 164 Kopitar 161 Hossa 157
Lemaire 190 Sundin 166 Bergeron 142

Orr 3 Blake 181
Weber 156 Hedman 146
Emile Bouchard 189 Laperriere 153

Price 185
Smith 186

That would be 3011, McDavid at the same price than option like Guy Lapointe is really a good price.

yeah current guys as a bargain bin is probably the best strategy

tikkanen (200) gretzky (1) kucherov (187)
elias (191-200?) mcdavid (130) bure (129)
lemaire (190) trottier (31) hextall (163)
gainey (200) carbonneau (200) lehtinen (200)

orr (3) savard (119)
langway (137) murphy (200)
prospisil (188) d hatcher (200)

parent (124)
vasilevskiy (200)
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2,993-3,002


i probably cheaped out a little more than i was comfortable with on dmen, especially speed on the bottom two pairs, but i feel like langway/murphy might be more than the sum of their parts. they only played together one season, murphy's first year in washington, but that was langway's peak norris/hart runner-up year.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

This is really just about finding "value picks" - players who you personally feel are underrated compared to what this board's panel thinks - or, finding sweet spots in the list where the players clustered in a certain range seem to make more sense than others that cost 10% more or 10% fewer points than they do.

i think the other strategy is filling your low-ranked or unranked player spots with guys who are elite complementary players, not A- superstars. so, in my case, elias, lemaire, tikkanen, larry murphy vs, say, denis savard or mats sundin

that forces me to rely a little more on gretzky/mcdavid/trottier to pull the cart on their lines, but it also means that i'm not asking those guys to do heavy defensive lifting too.

 

[Elvis P]

Some 200 point guys I used are Brendan Shanahan, John LeClair, Curtis Joseph, Daniel Alfredsson, and Pierre Turgeon.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

yeah current guys as a bargain bin is probably the best strategy

tikkanen (200) gretzky (1) kucherov (187)
elias (191-200?) mcdavid (130) bure (129)
lemaire (190) trottier (31) hextall (163)
gainey (200) carbonneau (200) lehtinen (200)

orr (3) savard (119)
langway (137) murphy (200)
prospisil (188) d hatcher (200)

parent (124)
vasilevskiy (200)
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2,993-3,002


i probably cheaped out a little more than i was comfortable with on dmen, especially speed on the bottom two pairs, but i feel like langway/murphy might be more than the sum of their parts. they only played together one season, murphy's first year in washington, but that was langway's peak norris/hart runner-up year.

ok i'm going to have some fun with special teams...

PP1 hextall gretzky trottier/mcdavid
orr murphy

PP2 elias trottier/mcdavid kucherov
bure orr

PKF1 gainey carbonneau

PKF2 tikkanen lehtinen

PKF3 lemaire bure

PKD1 langway hatcher

PKD2 pospisil savard

 

[VanIslander]

Bure as a penalty killer?

When was the last time he checked anybody?

 

[Elvis P]

Bure as a penalty killer? When was the last time he checked anybody?

He checked out my wife one time.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Bure as a penalty killer?

When was the last time he checked anybody?

he retired like 20 years ago, so more than 20 years ago?

seriously though, he was amazing on the PK as a guy who scared the bejesus out of point men. he would come at you and even if you were gary suter or al macinnis, you'd take an extra second before you moved the puck.

 

[VanIslander]

There are three creative offensive players I loved whom I lost respect for after going to their games and actually watching their shifts: Coffey, Ronning, Bure. *sigh* Circling vultures near center ice instead of backchecking, being opportunistic rather than responsible... used to be a thing.

The last player I saw do it live was Jason Spezza. Ugh.

 

[Elvis P]

• 
• ​
• These 200 point players may seem humble in an all-time context, but what 2021 NHL team could beat them in the playoffs? None.​
• ​
• Alexander Yakushev - Vyacheslav Starshinov - Daniel Alfredsson​
• Brendan Shanahan - Pierre Turgeon - Yvan Cournoyer​
• John LeClair - Rod Brind’Amour - Alexander Mogilny
  Keith Tkachuk - Jeremy Roenick - Claude Lemieux​

Lester Patrick - Sergei Gonchar
Brad McCrimmon - D Hatcher
Pulford - Howell

Chuck Rayner
Curtis Joseph
​

 

[Tucker McElroy]

Shannahan 200 McDavid 130 bathgate 62
Panarin 200 ratelle 174. Neely 200
Bucyck 160 Larionov 180 bure 129
Gainey 200 Lemaire 190 Larmer 200

Conacher 171 park 47
Langway 137 Leetch 97
Howell 200 Robinson 37

Esposito 108
Smith 186
3004

 

[ChiTownPhilly]

I can see quickly enough that "scan the ATD Draft History to find the highest-drafted players not placed on the list in the OP" is a productive homework assignment for an exercise such as this- but this:

Larry Murphy - Art Coulter​

This is a laterality botch- and should perhaps be reconsidered. ​

 

[Harry Waters]

Team 3024 points:
Ovechkin(22)-Gretzky(1)-Neely(200)
LeClair(200)-McDavid(130)-Probert(200)
Draisaitl(200)-Peca(200)-Mogilny(200)
Panarin(200)-Backstrom(200)-Shanahan(200)

Orr(3)-Karlsson(109)
Hedman(146)-Gonchar(200)
Carlson(200)-Foote(200)

Hasek(13)
Luongo(200)

I'm not sure about best but this team should be in the running for most entertaining for sure...

Top-heavy and then filled with some of the best 200-point-players I could think of.

 

[VanIslander]

ChiTownPhilly...

What do you have against HHOFer Larry Murphy?

Bowman himself said he was one of the most important players in cup victories.

Also, I have him on the 3rd pairing but another ATDer posting before me has him on the 1st pairing. ... But you single me out?

 

[Johnny Engine]

“Laterality” as in side to side.

Murphy should be on the right.

 

[Elvis P]

ChiTownPhilly... What do you have against HHOFer Larry Murphy? Bowman himself said he was one of the most important players in cup victories. Also, I have him on the 3rd pairing but another ATDer posting before me has him on the 1st pairing. ... But you single me out?

He needs to get a life. You put in the hard work and he takes a cheap shot not realizing that it's a fantasy team and sometimes players play on the wrong side. I still remember him bragging about being an expert on baseball history and not realizing that dead ball pitchers would be less effective in a live ball era.