Where would you rank Patrick Kane All Time?

[BlueBull]

3 Cups, 1 Conn Smythe, 1 Art Ross, 1 MVP.
1197 Points, a lot of which in the lower scoring Early 2010s and could have had more if it weren't for Lockouts and COVID.

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[jigglysquishy]

I have him 15 all time on my wingers list, but I haven't updated it in a while. Wouldn't have him top 50 all time.

My top 10 wingers for transparency sake
1. Gordie Howe
2. Jaromir Jagr
3. Bobby Hull
4. Alex Ovechkin
5. Maurice Richard
6. Guy Lafleur
7. Sergei Makarov
8. Bill Cook
9. Mike Bossy
10. Valeri Kharlamov

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I'm a huge Pat Kane fan, he's easily top 10 of all time.

 

[jigglysquishy]

I'm a huge Pat Kane fan, he's easily top 10 of all time.

I can't even see a good argument for him to be top 10 amongst wingers.

 

[Dominance]

The real debate would be whether he is top-100.

 

[bobholly39]

The real debate would be whether he is top-100.

I think he's definitely top 100 by now - but not sure if I have him closer to 50, or to 100. Gun to my head I'm thinking still closer to 100. He's probably in the ~70-90 range

 

[Hockeyholic]

I'm a huge Pat Kane fan, he's easily top 10 of all time.

Ovechkin
Richard
Lafleur
Bossy
Howe
Jagr
Both Hull's
Selanne

Those are just wingers I'd have above him.

Top 10 of all time is tough.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Somewhere between 75 and 100

 

[wetcoast]

I have him 15 all time on my wingers list, but I haven't updated it in a while. Wouldn't have him top 50 all time.

My top 10 wingers for transparency sake
1. Gordie Howe
2. Jaromir Jagr
3. Bobby Hull
4. Alex Ovechkin
5. Maurice Richard
6. Guy Lafleur
7. Sergei Makarov
8. Bill Cook
9. Mike Bossy
10. Valeri Kharlamov

That's how I see it as well although my top winger list might be different but Kane isn't a top 50 player, maybe top 75ish off the top of my head.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

In 2019, the HOH Top 100 list ranked Hull 80th all-time (I think that was a bit low, but not by much). Has Kane passed Hull?

Players in the 50's, as of 2019, included Peter Forsberg, Chris Pronger, and Evgeni Malkin. I don't think Kane has passed any of them. So "55 or lower" seems to be the best option.

 

[amnesiac]

somewhere around Forsberg and Malkin around 55-65ish?

 

[Play]

Top 25 or higher votes.

Well is he really better than Guy Lafleur?

@Hockey Outsider @Dominance

 

[Dominance]

Top 25 or higher votes.

Well is he really better than Guy Lafleur?

@Hockey Outsider @Dominance

I chose 55 or lower.

 

[Daximus]

He's probably somewhere in the 75-100 range all time. Heck of a resume and I think if he gets moved to a contender he will continue to build on it. 34 yo and not showing to many signs of slowing down, just on a bad team and likely not really feeling it right now. Whenever I've watched the Hawks this year he still looks incredibly dynamic and quick still. Don't think he's anywhere close to being done yet.

 

[Play]

I chose 55 or lower.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Kane is the man but he's not top 50.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Let’s see his point totals when he retires. He very well could finish his career top 15-20 all time in points. He’s having a rough year so far but he’s playing with freaking Domi and Anthanasiou. Get him on a better team and he’s a PPG+ player for a long time, cementing his legacy as the best US Born player ever

 

[JonathnTaylorTavares]

Better question is who is better? Kane or Tage Thompson?

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Top 25 or higher votes.

Well is he really better than Guy Lafleur?

@Hockey Outsider @Dominance

It wasn't me. Kane isn't close to Lafleur all-time.

 

[jigglysquishy]

Let’s see his point totals when he retires. He very well could finish his career top 15-20 all time in points. He’s having a rough year so far but he’s playing with freaking Domi and Anthanasiou. Get him on a better team and he’s a PPG+ player for a long time, cementing his legacy as the best US Born player ever

I would still very comfortably put Chelios and Brimsek ahead amongst Americans.

 

[JackSlater]

I would have been interested to see where the votes would have fallen if top 75 was an option.

 

[Connor McConnor]

I have him ranked 65 on my clearly objective and informed list on excel

 

[x Tame Impala]

I would still very comfortably put Chelios and Brimsek ahead amongst Americans.

Brimsek??? No. Chelios? Perhaps but if Kane retires with 1500+ points in addition to his multiple other accomplishments he’ll be the best American ever

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Kane could finish with 1500 points and if he stays in Chicago will probably end his career leading in every major offensive stat for the franchise besides goals

 

[Kunta Kinte]

Between 40 and 70.