When does the Yzerplan start getting criticized?

[Cloned]

The team and the roster have seemingly spun their wheels (pun intended) for a bit now.

Have you already criticized it?

Or is making the playoffs next season critical?

Or does Yzerman have a longer leash due to his reputation?

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[Satoru Gojo]

From in the playoff race to back in the bottom 10 of the League within a month

 

[nergish]

I still think Stevie Y is that guy. But the Wings do need to start gaining some traction as an organization. Probably two years before the water starts getting hot.

Drafting Cossa over Wallstedt made me raise an eyebrow, though.

 

[centipede2233]

the Vrana trade looks really bad atm. he might have some issues, but he can score goals at the NHL level

 

[Oddbob]

The team and the roster have seemingly spun their wheels (pun intended) for a bit now.

Have you already criticized it?

Or is making the playoffs next season critical?

Or does Yzerman have a longer leash due to his reputation?

He has been back for 4 seasons, and the teams future looks way better than when he returned.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

When the team is as bad as when he took over

/thread

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

They got Seider and it seems a bunch if nice, or lower pieces, nothing that stands out elsewhere like Seider.

 

[Steven Toast]

They still aren't making the playoffs in year 5 then that will be when.

 

[Bounces R Way]

He didn't get a McDavid/Matthews/Hughes layup to build around. Hopefully for the Wings they get some lottery luck in this draft.

 

[wmupreds]

When the team is as bad as when he took over

/thread

Thats a pretty bad way to evaluate

 

[Dempsey]

They need more game-breaking offensive talent. When you see the kind of talent the top teams have and then you look at the Wings' roster, it's pretty bleak and it doesn't look like there's a big turnaround coming next season, either.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Yea the just need some young core pieces on offense. Like what they are doing on defense though

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

The team and the roster have seemingly spun their wheels (pun intended) for a bit now.

Have you already criticized it?

Or is making the playoffs next season critical?

Or does Yzerman have a longer leash due to his reputation?

It's not just about his rep. It's that he was handed a dumpster fire from Holland, got no help in the draft, and the moves he's been making have for the most part been good.

 

[Bank Shot]

He has been back for 4 seasons, and the teams future looks way better than when he returned.

They still look at least 4 years away from doing anything. Gotta wonder how long the Wings owners let this go on before making change.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

The team and the roster have seemingly spun their wheels (pun intended) for a bit now.

What are you basing this on?

 

[HisIceness]

We start tomorrow at 5:35pm EDT.

 

[Realgud]

For anyone who follows what's going on and where the Wings were as an organization not too long ago, everything is going extremely well. It could have been much worse. Yzerman pretty much couldn't have done better with what he had.

 

[Mr Positive]

Imo they need to take a step forward next year. Similar to Ottawa. They are making win-now moves so they should start winning now

 

[Oddbob]

They still look at least 4 years away from doing anything. Gotta wonder how long the Wings owners let this go on before making change.

Yeah, maybe they should just draft a Connor McDavid level player to get things going.

 

[Colezuki]

Imo they need to take a step forward next year. Similar to Ottawa. They are making win-now moves so they should start winning now

There definitely running the risk of getting passed by mtl in the rebuild stage here.

 

[Bank Shot]

Imo they need to take a step forward next year. Similar to Ottawa. They are making win-now moves so they should start winning now

It'll be tough to make any kind of sizable step forward IMO. They have lots of cash but the free agent crop next offseason is dismal. There are only like 4 players on the roster that could be considered quality pieces over the next 5 years.

They will have to hope other teams will be looking to unload youngish good pieces which may or may not happen.

 

[Tatar Shots]

Anyone who wants to criticize the Yzerman rebuild should point out what he could have done differently that would have the team in a better spot. He can’t pull star talent out of thin air and he has drafted very well in the first round so far. He’s made a bunch of small moves that have worked out and improved the team and the future incrementally. Blaming Yzerman for lousy lottery luck is nonsensical

 

[Mr Positive]

It'll be tough to make any kind of sizable step forward IMO. They have lots of cash but the free agent crop next offseason is dismal. There are only like 4 players on the roster that could be considered quality pieces over the next 5 years.

They will have to hope other teams will be looking to unload youngish good pieces which may or may not happen.

Sure, but we should expect that young players take a step forward. Even though there aren't any major UFAs doesn't mean there aren't smart ones to target

 

[BudBundy]

When you take an absolutely horrible team and you want to turn it into a serious Stanley Cup contender, it typically takes longer than 4 years. I mean even if you draft a great D man, Centre, and Goalie, they are barely ready to contribute in 4 years. There are some quick turnarounds, but most fall short. In my opinion, to be a real cup contender you need two really good Centers, a number one and two D man and a good supporting cast. Not to mention a good starting goalie. That takes a lot of high draft picks plus a lot of luck to accumulate, and more than 4 years to marinate. So long as Yzerman is accumulating blue chip prospects at a solid rate and is leveraging his cap space for more assets, you shouldn’t be calling for his head because that’s the kind of progress you should be seeing.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Anyone who wants to criticize the Yzerman rebuild should point out what he could have done differently that would have the team in a better spot. He can’t pull star talent out of thin air and he has drafted very well in the first round so far. He’s made a bunch of small moves that have worked out and improved the team and the future incrementally. Blaming Yzerman for lousy lottery luck is nonsensical

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