What's the most prestigious individual award

[Goptor]

On this site its the drafted first overall award.

 

[Tom Hanks]

The problem with the voting awards are that the people judging probably don't watch nearly enough games. The Smythe is more condensed so that's probably more accurate (or should be).

What about a system where the refs give a "3,2,1" (best player 3 votes, 2nd best 2 votes, 3rd best 1 vote). That way all the games are accounted for and the refs should be watching the game closely and from a good vantage point.

 

[Passchendaele]

Lindsay > Hart

Hart votes come from members of the media, some of them extremely biased.

Lindsay votes come from the players themselves, and they're in a much better position to judge.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

The Lindsay is by miles.

 

[jetsforever]

Hart is the most prestigious
However, Lindsay might be more satisfying to win

 

[983 others]

Nobody on this site or the planet Earth cares that McDavid won the Lindsay, but people are rightfully up in arms about Hall winning the Hart.

Try to deny it all you want, but it's true.

Hart > Lindsay

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

Bud Light Plus-Minus Award

There’s a beer-like product. Evaluation based on random ice time. Tears are shed, victories are exalted. What’s not to love.

 

[Weztex]

Lindsay > Hart

Hart votes come from members of the media, some of them extremely biased.

Lindsay votes come from the players themselves, and they're in a much better position to judge.

Well, considering Bobby Orr won three Hart and one Lindsay (Pearson), I'd say the latter has probably seen more bias over time. Toward forwards that is.

 

[93LEAFS]

Harts are held in the highest regard and therefore have the most prestige. Whether it is worthy of that type of attachment is debatable.

 

[AKL]

The Hart and Lindsay measure two separate things so you can't say one's more accurate than the other. The Hart is awarded to the player judged to be the most valuable to his team. The Lindsay is awarded to the most outstanding player as voted on by his peers.

It is entirely possible for Taylor Hall to be the most valuable player to his team, and McDavid to be the most outstanding player.

Now, if I was a player, I think I'd feel much more accomplished winning the Smythe, then Lindsay, then Hart. Smythe 99% means my team won the cup, Lindsay means regardless of what happened I was the best in the league, Hart means that I committed more to my teams success than any other player in the regular season, however, that could mean dragging a team who doesn't belong in the playoffs to a first round exit.

 

[Not So Mighty]

The most important trophies are the friendships built along the way.

 

[alko]

What if me create HFBoards WMFP Award (Worlds Most Fu..... Precious Award)?

Condition: Only from players that win : Hart, Ted Lindsay and Conn Smythe.

 

[bh53]

1. Conn Smythe
2. Ted Lindsay
3. Hart

 

[412 Others]

Lindsay and Smythe. The goalposts constantly move on the Hart criteria.

 

[ovikovy817]

Who votes for the Lindsay award? I know it's the NHLPA, but how many people vote for this

 

[DDRhockey]

Norris

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Hart.

You rarely see anyone mention the Lindsay while talking about players and their legacies. Whether that's right or wrong is a different story.

 

[daver]

Hart trophy is the most.

Smythe should be the most coveted.

 

[gretskidoo]

Art Ross/Rocket.

Lots of idiots around that get to vote for other awards, as evidenced by a lot of joke wins.

 

[ziggyjoe212]

Lindsay is "better" than Hart. Unless you value the opinions of pundits over the players in judging their own peers

The problem there is players in the other conference rarely see 15 teams. And I doubt NHLers watch much hockey on TV. There will almost certainly be a bias to your own conference because of this.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I think access to information has the Lindsey overtaking the Hart.

If you go back 20/30 years as a player, I doubt you had the time to follow the entire league, outside of seeing the box score in the newspaper or maybe reading something like the Hockey News on a flight. Thus, you really only knew your team or your division rivals. However it was the media's job (at least in part) to follow the league somewhat. Plus they (the media) didn't really need to be sensationalist, as they were the only source of news.

Fast forward to today, and the players can spend their travel time watching endless highlights, but in the media there's become a fight to get noticed, thus the need to add a narrative and/or hot take to everything.

The players now are basically as informed as the media, but they can just vote and not worry bout having to find a story to build.

 

[rfournier103]

What I would want if I was in the NHL:

1. Conn Smythe

2. Art Ross

3. Hart

 

[North Cole]

I bet that if McDavid isn't the best player next year but rather top 3 or so but gets Oilers to playoffs they will vote him for the Hart. They'll feel that he's "due".

Connor McDue?

 

[Midnight Judges]

Lindsay > Hart

Hart votes come from members of the media, some of them extremely biased.

Lindsay votes come from the players themselves, and they're in a much better position to judge.

Players can be extremely biased too.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Hart is the more media driven award and popularized. Fans are not really voting for it unfortunately, it is the PHWA that make up there own rules in judging the award. They can literally change on how they pick it every year.

Ted Lindsay is the League players voting for the best of the best in the NHL. I think any player would want to strive for this award over the Hart. Respect from your peers seems to have more validation of your ability over the judgement of hockey writers.



Lindsay
Conn Smythe
Hart

Regarding the bolder part, how is the Smythe any different?