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any defence with out dave burrows doesn't cut it . imo the other team wouldn't even try to bring it down his side of the ice. if we are talking "defence" he was the best i ever seen.
Tribute What would your all time Penguins team look like?
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Rudy Russo
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Stevens, Lemieux, Tocchet
Recchi, Crosby, Jagr
Luc Robitalle, Malkin, Kovalev
Pronovost, Francis, Mullen
Kehoe, Larouche
Coffey, Letang
Gonchar, Carlyle
Ulf, Murphy
Zubov
Fleury
Barrasso
Recchi, Crosby, Jagr
Luc Robitalle, Malkin, Kovalev
Pronovost, Francis, Mullen
Kehoe, Larouche
Coffey, Letang
Gonchar, Carlyle
Ulf, Murphy
Zubov
Fleury
Barrasso
Ugene Magic
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While I have no problem with him on lists, he was part of the eras that didn't produce, and the only reason I have Carlyle is the fact he had a Norris. Just too many past these guys did more to earn championships with so few spots to give. But at least they had years of term with the Pens and another reason I wouldn't fight against them on lists, just not mine.
PensPlz
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Penguins are a cup team so I'll build my all-time-team for one that competes in the playoffs.
Lemieux - Crosby - Recchi
Stevens - Malkin - Jagr
Guentzel - Bonino - Kessel
Cooke - Staal - Hossa
Francis
Coffey - Letang
Gonchar - Carlyle
Samuelsson - Scuderi
Orpik
Murray
Fleury
Every line is pretty balanced with speed, skill, grit, and defensive minded players. I really wanted to put Iginla in there, but that wouldn't be fair since his prime wasn't here.
Lemieux - Crosby - Recchi
Stevens - Malkin - Jagr
Guentzel - Bonino - Kessel
Cooke - Staal - Hossa
Francis
Coffey - Letang
Gonchar - Carlyle
Samuelsson - Scuderi
Orpik
Murray
Fleury
Every line is pretty balanced with speed, skill, grit, and defensive minded players. I really wanted to put Iginla in there, but that wouldn't be fair since his prime wasn't here.
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Honour Over Glory
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He was "on" for 2 rookie seasons and then has been inconsistent. So this idiotic argument of "ainec" bullshit is tragic in its stupidity.
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Somewhat close to what I would pick as well. Good choices mate.
Gurglesons
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Zubov was okay here. He didn’t really hit his peak as an all around D until his tenure with Dallas though. If you’re taking Zubov over Gonchar in terms of “Penguins” career. I dunno about you.
Gurglesons
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And I’ll go with the Pens players at their “peak” as Penguins.
Kunitz - Crosby - Hossa
Lemieux - Francis - Jagr
Stevens - Malkin - Tocchet
Straka - Trottier - Staal
Coffey - Murphy
Samuelsson - Letang
Kasper - Gonchar
Barrasso
Murray
Kunitz - Crosby - Hossa
Lemieux - Francis - Jagr
Stevens - Malkin - Tocchet
Straka - Trottier - Staal
Coffey - Murphy
Samuelsson - Letang
Kasper - Gonchar
Barrasso
Murray
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My Thoughts on Forwards
- Let's assume we have Lemieux, Crosby, Malkin, Francis fixed at Center.
- There are only 8 winger spots.
- I think Straka, Kovalev, Kunitz, Guentzel, Staal (wing), and Kessel all deserve some consideration.
- Jagr, Stevens, Mullen, Recchi, and Tocchet are also in the mix.
- Straka - Lang - Kovalev is tempting.
- Hagelin - Bonino - Kessel is slightly tempting.
- For wingers who played here for a short time, and have big names, but I don't think should be included: Iginla, Robitaille, Naslund, Nedved, Hossa, Marleau.
- Veterans who played here and made a playoff impact, who I think you could make a case for: Trottier, Roberts, Guerin, Cullen.
- I would invite Caufield, Errey, Bourque, Armstrong, Talbot, Dupuis, Rust, and Morozov to camp just because.
- I definitely have a 90s/00s/10s bias.
I'd say your 5 wingers starting with Jagr are a lock, which leaves three spots. I'd fill them with Kovy and Kessel first, and then I'd put Kehoe (followed closely by Pronovost) for the last spot. I love Guentzel and think he'll be there in a couple years (watching him gel seamlessly this year with 87 and/or 71 was just a joy; dude is so good). I can't put Hossa in there. Man, I wish he'd stayed, but he chose to go off with the Evil Empire after a relatively few games, so he's just an asterisk.
On D, I'd have Coffey, Letang, Gonch, Murphy and then, after a big drop off, take your pick - Kaspar (one of my fave Pens), Dumo, Burrows (if you're going to put Scuderi in, you might as well put Burrows in, who was just a better version of Scuderi), Ulfie, Carlyle (I always thought he was overrated, but he had one good year and the media was tired of voting for Larry Robinson or Denis Potvin every year). I'd go with Dumo and Kaspar as my third pair.
I'd have Trottier and Roberts eating nachos just in case.
Ugene Magic
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Tocchet and Zubov are big misses. I have been doing this to a lot of teams as my neighbor names one lol. Penguins are weak on RD and LW is what I'd say...but amazing at C
I'd pay top dollar to see your L1 (healthy/prime) play. But isn't it impossible to omit Ronnie Francis? Good to see Gonch, he was money in the playoffs.
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Tocchet - Crosby - Lemieux
Robitalle - Francis - Jagr
Stevens - Malkin - Hossa
Recchi - J. Cullen - Iginla
Coffey - Zubov
Gonchar - Letang
Carlyle Murphy
Fleury
Barrasso
Robitalle - Francis - Jagr
Stevens - Malkin - Hossa
Recchi - J. Cullen - Iginla
Coffey - Zubov
Gonchar - Letang
Carlyle Murphy
Fleury
Barrasso
Ryder71
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I never said it was ''AINEC''. I think it is close, but I'd still take MM at his best.
Ryder71
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As far as moving Mario to wing, I just think that's absurd! He's arguably the best player to ever play and at the time he moved to wing he was not exactly in his prime. Still tremendous, but I want him at center. Lemieux, Sid, Geno, and Francis, you just can't go wrong there. lol
We have enough quality wings where by our centers wouldn't get short changed. And yes you can't leave Kovalev or Hossa out.
We have enough quality wings where by our centers wouldn't get short changed. And yes you can't leave Kovalev or Hossa out.
Gurglesons
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Kovalev is my favorite Penguin of all time, but if we are talking “peak career as a Penguin” he just wasn’t more than a sum of parts here. If you’re putting up “best individual players of all time with the Penguin” he’s in my top five wingers. If the goal is to build a team that encompasses peak Penguin performances Kovalev ain’t part of it.
Lemieux would be a center if you aren’t going up against Sid and Francis who are 200 ft players. The Lemieux - Francis - Jagr line was lights out too in the one year we got it.
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Ryder71
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How about my opinion is between yours and HOG's? I'll try to thread the needle there.
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TheSniper26
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I think this discussion would be definitely be more interesting if you stipulated no crossovers with other teams. One team per player. In other words, you could only choose guys who were at their best and are most associated with the Pens. So you wouldn't have, say, Coffey or Trottier, because they would rightly belong to Edmonton and NYI.
I think that definitely makes for more compelling rosters. It could open up some interesting debates on where guys should land too.
I think that definitely makes for more compelling rosters. It could open up some interesting debates on where guys should land too.
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TheSniper26
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I don't know, it's pretty tough to argue against it for me. He won 3 of his 4 Cups there, played more seasons overall there and had his 3 most productive seasons there(including his iconic 48 goal season). I'll always see him as an Edmonton Oiler first.
