What kind of recognition does Kaberle deserve?

[Myke]

Even better that it is 1337. Hopefully someone picks up that reference

First thing I noticed!

 

[BraveCanadian]

None.

Pretty good player for a while and that is about it.

 

[FrozenJagrt]

He certainly was teflon. Not sure how he escaped the Muskoka 5 criticism that the others received.

Great Leaf though, no doubt. He and McCabe were very good together.

Of the five, only Sundin and Kaberle were still playing well at that point. Since Sundin became a lightning rod for unfair criticism the second he came to the league, Kaberle got off Scott free

 

[yubbers]

2nd in Leaf D-men scoring
2nd in Leaf D-men assists
1st in Leaf D-men OT goals
1st in Leaf D-men GWG
5th in Leaf D-men goals
8th in Leaf games played
3rd in Leaf D-men games played
1337 shots as a Leaf

None.

Pretty good player for a while and that is about it.

 

[silentbob37*]

THe Leafs love honoring medoicrity, so I'm sure he'll be "honored" (which in itself is a joke) and get his name and number up there soon.

 

[yubbers]

What is mediocre about those numbers?

Ranked top 5 all time in numerous categories. All time! This isn't the Arizona coyotes. No wonder Kessel can't win with you. He'd need 128 goals!

 

[HEAVY DUTY]

a company party at Real Sports Bar.

i don't think he's worthy of an "honouring" IMO.

 

[613Leafer]

The Muskoka 5 era definitely played better as a team than the present era IMO. They had absolute terrible goaltending the entire time, im pretty sure it as bottom 5 in the league every season from the start of the lockout until the Kessel/Phaneuf/etc era began.

And yet the team with Sundin, Kaberle, McCabe, etc finished outside the bottom 10 for two seasons, then 7th last in the league in 2008, followed by 7th last in the league again in 2009 but with no Sundin on the team.

Sundin was obviously a huge part of that, but I think the contributions of Kaberle/Kubina/McCabe were underrated at the time, with their defensive ability heavily questioned, when in reality the goaltending on the team was just piss poor.

Too bad so many of the prime years of Kaberle, and a few of our other guys, were wasted on a team that couldnt make the playoffs. Followed by getting almost no value for that core as a group (Kaberle got decent value, McCabe/Kubina were dumped for virtually nothing, Tucker bought out, and Sundin walked for nothing).

 

[silentbob37*]

What is mediocre about those numbers?

Ranked top 5 all time in numerous categories. All time! This isn't the Arizona coyotes. No wonder Kessel can't win with you. He'd need 128 goals!

Because "honoring" is susposed to be what the Leafs do instead of retiring numbers (and as I said, its......pathetic they don't retire numbers).

Being ranked top 5 for the franchise is not worthy of that. Retiring or "honoring" is susposed to be truly great players. Guys who were among the best int he league, not your team. Guys who won't championships or defined how a positino was played. First among Leafs D-men in OT goals? Please, thats not what "raising a jersey" is for.

Look at the Red Wings for example, they have 1 D-man with a retired number, Lidstrom. A franchise that is 89 years old and only 1 defenseman is worthy of being honored. The Leafs look for any reason to "honor" anyone they can, which just.....cheapens the whole thing - we love to honor mediocrity.