What is Causing Edmonton's Success Right Now?
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We've played 3 games in a row at home against EC clubs that play bad on Western road swings, are allergic to team D, coverage, or throwing hits.
We're 0-4-1 against WC clubs.
Chalk it up to scheduling quirk at this point.
I'll revise my view if something different happens but this is the story at this point.
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Oilers play way better against the Eastern conference. They're an Eastern conference team stuck in the West.
Mr Positive
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Lots of things. We called up Marincin. Scrivens had a couple good games (and a few bad ones). RNH and Eberle are recovering from minor injuries. We have one of the best 4th lines in the league. We're tightening up some of our simple, stupid mistakes that were holding us back.
And even then, we aren't dominating opposition in these wins. We also weren't playing as badly as last season in our losses. I agree with Replacement on the sample size, but I don't think the conference matters when they are two good teams like Washington and Tampa.
And even then, we aren't dominating opposition in these wins. We also weren't playing as badly as last season in our losses. I agree with Replacement on the sample size, but I don't think the conference matters when they are two good teams like Washington and Tampa.
CraigsList
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Well, I guess Carolina is an easy team (Calgary won 5-0). Do you think they can pick up some wins on the West with this winning streak?
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Imo Bishop did extremely well. We outplayed Tampa very badly. It could be a bit of an illusion though. I thought the Jets were outplaying the Bolts very much last night, but the Bolts have a quick strike capability that gave them the win.
ADifferentTim
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I'm not even an Oilers fan but this is the perfect time for the Oilers to polish up on their defense.
misfit
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They had a few winnable games early in the season that they shouldn't have lost. I don't think their game has changed much at all, but they're not getting the terrible goaltending they got in the first few, and the bounces have leveled out a bit.
Overall, it's 3 games...and the record prior to that was only over 5 games. Try not to read too much into small sample sizes.
Overall, it's 3 games...and the record prior to that was only over 5 games. Try not to read too much into small sample sizes.
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Playing EC teams, our #1D is back from the AHL, our #2D isn't in the press box, our goalie has decided to show up and there's probably that thing LeBron James was talking about with the Cav's. McT has overhauled this roster since taking over. It's going to take some time for them to learn to play together and trust each other.
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Didn't watch the Canes game, but in the previous 2 wins it looked like they've revised their "swarm" approach in the defensive end so not to completely abandon the slot (where we got slaughtered the first 4 games). It's resulted in lanes to the point opening up, but the law of averages suggests that it's a bit tougher to score from there (vs the slot). So in that regard, improvement to a still flawed system.
Yes, Scrivens has been better.
Marincin being called up and paired with Fayne has been good (but again, did not watch last night's game where they were both minuses, but they previously shutdown Ovie and Stamkos).
The 4th line is giving us some good, grinding forecheck hockey. Joensuu has flashed a bit of skill, Gordon is a beast on the dot, and Hendricks hits everything that moves. We haven't had a proper 4th line in forever.
I'd say that about covers it. That, and part of what Replacement mentioned. TB/WSH/CAR all have questionable depth down the middle (like us). Bring in the Ducks/Blues/Kings and we could very likely take 5 steps back. But that would be the pessimistic viewpoint, and we don't do that in Oil country. It's always sunny in Phila.... er, Edmonton.
Yes, Scrivens has been better.
Marincin being called up and paired with Fayne has been good (but again, did not watch last night's game where they were both minuses, but they previously shutdown Ovie and Stamkos).
The 4th line is giving us some good, grinding forecheck hockey. Joensuu has flashed a bit of skill, Gordon is a beast on the dot, and Hendricks hits everything that moves. We haven't had a proper 4th line in forever.
I'd say that about covers it. That, and part of what Replacement mentioned. TB/WSH/CAR all have questionable depth down the middle (like us). Bring in the Ducks/Blues/Kings and we could very likely take 5 steps back. But that would be the pessimistic viewpoint, and we don't do that in Oil country. It's always sunny in Phila.... er, Edmonton.
I think Nikitin has been more instrumental than Marincin to be honest on the back end.
Nikitin started the season playing on a sore ankle, its likely that's fully healed up now.
Nikitin started the season playing on a sore ankle, its likely that's fully healed up now.
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1) Eastern Rodeo
2) MacT's moves
3) Eakins
[of course, these are the things i wanted Hf to discuss on the mains when i made my threads]
2) MacT's moves
3) Eakins
[of course, these are the things i wanted Hf to discuss on the mains when i made my threads]
1) Home ice last change
2) Coach is using zone starts effectively
3) 4th line is playing great
4) Oilers match up better against Eastern Conference
5) Better goaltending of late
6) Nikitin and Fayne are playing better than at the start of the season
7) Marincin replaced Hunt
First two games were winnable with better goaltending IMO.
2) Coach is using zone starts effectively
3) 4th line is playing great
4) Oilers match up better against Eastern Conference
5) Better goaltending of late
6) Nikitin and Fayne are playing better than at the start of the season
7) Marincin replaced Hunt
First two games were winnable with better goaltending IMO.
Eakins' defensive system is such garbage seriously. Why couldn't we have hired a competent, seasoned NHL coach like Terry Murray? Ugh.
Up the Irons
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1. Goaltending
2. Started fielding their best dcorp
3. Ramseys influence on dzone play starting to make a difference. Breakouts r 1000% betfer
4. Maturity helping in holding leads
5. 1st line making opponents pay for mistakes.
2. Started fielding their best dcorp
3. Ramseys influence on dzone play starting to make a difference. Breakouts r 1000% betfer
4. Maturity helping in holding leads
5. 1st line making opponents pay for mistakes.
I wouldn't bet on it.
Turn the physical dial up and plug up the middle of the ice in the d zone and you have the Oilers beat.
Basically the key to beating Edmonton is to not give them an easy path to the net because we won't force the issue. If you make it hard to get to the net... we just won't go and will end up circling the outside and firing low percentage shots.
The Oilers can generally play with anyone from the East, even Montreal (for the most part), because the teams from the East allow the Oilers to play a more wide open, uptempo style and are content to trade scoring chances.
The Western teams play much tighter and take away the middle of the ice much moreso.
The Western teams play much tighter and take away the middle of the ice much moreso.
I don't think the level of game last night was very good overall. The forwards played alright once again, but the team D still left something to be desired and Scrivens was looking real flaky. Luckily it was only Carolina and we didn't crap the bed too hard.
Otherwise, our physical presence and pushback is probably at a 6 year high, so that's encouraging. We're still rather "light" in some very key positions. A couple big trade deadline maneuvers could turn us into a potential playoff threat, and I do think this team has enough skill to make playoffs if it really pulls it together. But it's definitely going to be a season long battle just to stay in the middle of the pack.
Otherwise, our physical presence and pushback is probably at a 6 year high, so that's encouraging. We're still rather "light" in some very key positions. A couple big trade deadline maneuvers could turn us into a potential playoff threat, and I do think this team has enough skill to make playoffs if it really pulls it together. But it's definitely going to be a season long battle just to stay in the middle of the pack.
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