Player Discussion What do the players need to do

[GCK]

Currently 11-15 with a -1 goal differential. What record does this team need the rest of the year to show it was the coach and not the players ?

Minimum for me is playing .600 hockey the rest of the way.

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[Senscore]

Play a more cohesive team game with a focus on defensive responsibility.


There.

 

[Korpse]

Be more willing to physically pay a price.

 

[robsenz]

Sad reality is its not just on DJ, he's just became the biggest scapegoat, they weren't winning with him regardless and that was the next play, so its good to see action on that front.
Players need to figure it out fast and pull up their big boy pants, Stu needs to play less.
The goaltending is garbage and needs to be figured out before this team does anything positive.

 

[Beech]

listen to the coach(s) and re-learn (or learn for the first time) how to play the game at NHL level.

 

[Dionysus]

DJ takes the fall, but this poor first quarter is squarely on the players.

They need to buy in. Find a way to play like pros and establish an identity. And when they do, they have to string together probably 2 10 game segments where they are taking 15-18 points out of 20. Tall task.

 

[armani]

The players need to learn how to play as a team, whether creating offence and stopping a rush, and their designated roles/positioning on ice. Learn to play successful 2-way hockey that starts with being accountable for your checks. Tkachuk may have had some success on the breakaway on the counter by waiting at the blue line, but it has also resulted in scoring opportunities/goals the other way. Stutzle keeps making the same mistakes every game when he holds on to the puck too long, some of it related to players poor positioning on ice to receive a pass.

These are fixable mistakes. Despite knowing what ails them, they were consistent at making the same mistakes over and over, which goes back into the question of accountability.

The players need to hold themselves/each other accountable at all times. That's how great teams are built.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

I'm going to pay attention specifically to how they defend and transition the puck out their zone.

 

[bert]

Currently 11-15 with a -1 goal differential. What record does this team need the rest of the year to show it was the coach and not the players ?

Minimum for me is playing .600 hockey the rest of the way.

I dont think thats going to happen. The learning curve is going to be very steep. They are going to have to learn so much from a systems and accountability standpoint. They have alot of bad habits that arent going to be broken over night. Personally I am going to base my evaluations on the process less than the result and if we start seeing improvments.

Last year when Tocchet took over they had a bump then a regression. He was asked about it and he simply said they have a long long way to go before they start playing the right way. I think its going to be a similar situation here.

 

[otown]

It's all business now! Country club days are over.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Play much better D and either

- Get us a top pick by being terrible
- Get into the playoffs by going on a tear

 

[DaveMatthew]

I dont think thats going to happen. The learning curve is going to be very steep. They are going to have to learn so much from a systems and accountability standpoint. They have alot of bad habits that arent going to be broken over night. Personally I am going to base my evaluations on the process less than the result and if we start seeing improvments.

Last year when Tocchet took over they had a bump then a regression. He was asked about it and he simply said they have a long long way to go before they start playing the right way. I think its going to be a similar situation here.

After Tocchet took over last year, the Canucks went 22-12-8 (0.619 pts%). They didn't really have the traditional "bump" either. Went 3-3-2 in the first 8 and then picked up steam.

Prior to Tocchet, they were 18-18-4 (.500 pts%).

So they got a pretty significant bump, and they also traded away their captain and leading scorer amidst the coaching change.

 

[Answer]

1. Shut up
2. Play defense
3. Stop with Cringy Goal celebrations (Brady)

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Listen. Buy In. Park their Egos. Level their emotions. Give it 100%

 

[bert]

After Tocchet took over last year, the Canucks went 22-12-8 (0.619 pts%). They didn't really have the traditional "bump" either. Went 3-3-2 in the first 8 and then picked up steam.

Prior to Tocchet, they were 18-18-4 (.500 pts%).

So they got a pretty significant bump, and they also traded away their captain and leading scorer amidst the coaching change.

They are playing much better hockey this year in general the Canucks. As you did reference my post, I spoke about the process less than the results. Tocchet had that quote a few weeks into his tenure.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

The players are boys playing a man's game. They need to become men out there and start playing the right way.

 

[bert]

1. Shut up
2. Play defense
3. Stop with Cringy Goal celebrations (Brady)

Deep.

 

[Xspyrit]

It’s not really about the W-L column

We are finally purging the remains of the self-damaging Dorion era

So if they stop playing against themselves, that would be a good start

 

[BoardsofCanada]

When the games start becoming boring, low scoring, 2-1, 3-2 and 1-0. I'll know they are listening to every word and command of Martin. I doubt it will happen right away but hopefully over the next month, we see the goals against drop dramatically.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

When the games start becoming boring, low scoring, 2-1, 3-2 and 1-0. I'll know they are listening to every word and command of Martin. I doubt it will happen right away but hopefully over the next month, we see the goals against drop dramatically.

We all remember those games, and playoff series between the Martin coached Senators and the Lemaire coached Devils…. 2 - 0 was a very common score

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Old school coaching is what they’re going to be getting. Big ask for them to get up to speed.

We will see a lot of short fuses.

 

[Flamingo]

Get rid of those sideburns.

 

[Dan Patrick]

Stop blowing the zone before the D has recovered the puck (also fix the breakout). The extra offence generated by quick transitions means jack shit when you leave the opposing team with numbers in your zone because your forwards have already left the D zone. Also, I’ve been saying it for over a month but they need to clean up their 2nd periods. The entire team seems to have a super lackadaisical approach to the 2nd period.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Currently 11-15 with a -1 goal differential. What record does this team need the rest of the year to show it was the coach and not the players ?

Minimum for me is playing .600 hockey the rest of the way.

.600 is quite good. Maybe like .550 with waaaayyy less chaotic play

 

[GCK]

.600 is quite good. Maybe like .550 with waaaayyy less chaotic play

.550 for a whole season is not playoff pace. .600 minimum.