What are the odds of a "Fire Carlyle" chant?

[egd27]

Hopefully they do what they feel is right and not make decisions based on fan reaction.
Most fans don't really have a clue.

Are you suggesting that firing the coach, the GM, and trading away every player that has been here longer than 3 years for yet to be known 18 year olds is not a recipe for guaranteed future success?

How dare you?

 

[Bullseye]

"Hire Babcock" - should be the chant - has more vision than simply "fire the coach" every 3-4 years - boring - same old same old ya know?

 

[p.l.f.]

Dont throw cookies on the ice
They would be categorized as hard covered projectiles similar to pucks

 

[yubbers]

How bout fans just bring white flags and wave them

 

[TheOneArmedMan]

We'll get rid of Carlyle then have this exact conversation again when the new coach has worn out his welcome.

I still think Carlyle is part of the problem, but I also agree the players are just sitting back enjoying their big fat contracts.

Althought look at how Pittsburgh got rid of Bylsma after only a couple of years even when the team was one of the best in the league. Tortorella did not even last a full season in Vancouver, then the same players he had improved after they replaced him. Also Anahiem improved after Carlyle was canned, even when he had the same core and a cup contending team.

 

[12345678910]

"We want Burkie" is the only acceptable chant.

 

[Tak7]

There was anger and disgust amongst the fanbase last year.

And yet there I was, at the ACC last home game of last season against Winnipeg, with 2 minutes to go and the Leafs getting beat heavily by the Jets in a game that concluded their playoff fate, and instead of a "Fire Carlyle" chant there were a few people who tried to get a Go Leafs Go chant going.

If it didn't start at the end of last season's debacle with the anger amongst the fanbase, I doubt it's going to start.

It was the final nail in the coffin for Wilson though. If it somehow does start against Carlyle, you would imagine there's no way back for him.

If things go south against either the Caps or the Jackets, I really hope it does get an airing. It only takes a few brave folks at the ACC to get it started - the fanbase is a powder keg right now, just start it and let things spread

 

[Smif]

blow it up. blow it up.

Also gotta go with the pack leader.

Fire NONIS!!

Too terrorist-like imo.

 

[yubbers]

instantly tackled by an usher

 

[leafstilldeath*]

"Re-build, Re-build, Re-build!"

AMEN!

 

[Dirty Dan]

JVR-Kadri-Santo
Komarov-Bozak-Lupul
Kessel-Holland-Panik
Winnick-Smith-Clarkson

Even that looks shaky defensively,bozak-lupul is disaster, there's just too many lazy defensive players on the roster. Panik-holland maybe not enough to insulate kessel

 

[Tak7]

instantly tackled by an usher

Do they tackle anybody?

I swear they seem like some of the nicest people on the planet lol. Almost too excited to point out where my seat is.

 

[eddieO]

I think it's classless and hope we're above this.

This does nothing but make us look like a trash fan base.

 

[Bullseye]

Hire Benoit Grioux!!!

 

[Tak7]

I think it's classless and hope we're above this.

This does nothing but make us look like a trash fan base.

Or a passionate fan base that has reached a boiling point of frustration and is finally demanding some accountability?

Worked pretty well in Vancouver last year.

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Leaf fans can barely sustain a chant for more than 5 seconds

 

[rimshot]

I still think Carlyle is part of the problem, but I also agree the players are just sitting back enjoying their big fat contracts.

Althought look at how Pittsburgh got rid of Bylsma after only a couple of years even when the team was one of the best in the league. Tortorella did not even last a full season in Vancouver, then the same players he had improved after they replaced him. Also Anahiem improved after Carlyle was canned, even when he had the same core and a cup contending team.

I thought the Ducks only won one Cup. They won a Cup with Carlyle so to improve upon that they would have to win multiple Cups. Have they won 3 Stanley Cups?

 

[Pucker77]

I highly doubt they would commit to another coach long term in season with so many question marks on the team. You likley see an intern in Spott or Hori. There is a lot of things we don't know right now, for example; the possession statistics. There is evidence that some of our core players had significantly higher possession stats under Wilson then Carlyle, and that Carlyle's old team had a reversal after his departure. How much of this is the system? The players? Another thing; team defense. Is it the system? Or do we really have the worst defenders in the league?

Carlyle should have never made it though the summer, and this likley see's Nonis get fired due to his inability to act. Now we have a lame duck coach and a ton of question marks. I say fire him now and see how the team preforms with a new direction on the bench, otherwise were bound to trade players that were struggling here due to Carlyle only to have major sucess away from Toronto (Aka Gardiner or Kessel).

Sorry, I should have clarified more. What I meant was fire Carlyle and promote Horachek or Spott as the interim. Then in the off season you no longer have to worry about Carlyle, you have seen what Horachek was able to (or not to) do with this group, and hopefully have a list full of candidates for the coaching job.

If Horachek does well with the group then great allow him to interview for the role as full-time head coach but also look into Dan Bylsma, Dean Blashill, Guy Boucher, etc. Dont just wait on Babcock as the only plan.

 

[indigobuffalo]

how about a trade kessel chant? that's a lot better.

This.

Carlyle isn't the problem but TBH if Babcock chooses Toronto he's gone anyways.

Also, it's probably not a good idea for this fan base to boo another coach out of town, when someone as promising as Babcock is kicking the organization's tires.

Sometimes, it is a good idea to slap lipstick on a pig...

I further agree with Trade Kessel chants because I do not see Kessel as a compatible player with Babcock.

Even in the event we don't get Babcock, I think Shanahan has a vision that Kessel doesn't mesh with.

The only reason I think Kessel is still here is due to Shanahan biding time until he gets a crack at Babcock, and can let him test the Kessel waters before a decision is made to trade him (or whoever the next coach is, if it's Dale Hunter, same deal).

Carlyle/Nonis are dead-men walking.

 

[Mess]

I think it's classless and hope we're above this.

This does nothing but make us look like a trash fan base.

You might be right but ..

ACC fans cheered "Fire Wilson" and "Fire Burke" and both times got their wish in the past.

I think if the losing continues, even if it isn't Carlyle's fault we might hear the chants as fans voice their displeasure.

 

[ACC1224]

You might be right but ..

ACC fans cheered "Fire Wilson" and "Fire Burke" and both times got their wish in the past.

I think if the losing continues, even if it isn't Carlyle's fault we might hear the chants as fans voice their displeasure.

I don't recall that ever happening.

I remember the "Give Domi the C" chants when fans were frustrated with Sundin. Fans aren't always the brightest.

 

[Al14]

"We want Burkie" is the only acceptable chant.

Yeah, sure, bring back that foul mouthed windbag!

He promised a tough team, and I quote "We require, as a team, proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence. That's how our teams play."

Then, he goes out and trades far too much to acquire the softest, chicken **** player there ever was!

I have very little respect for Brian Burke!

 

[egd27]

This.

Carlyle isn't the problem but TBH if Babcock chooses Toronto he's gone anyways.

Also, it's probably not a good idea for this fan base to boo another coach out of town, when someone as promising as Babcock is kicking the organization's tires.

Sometimes, it is a good idea to slap lipstick on a pig...

I further agree with Trade Kessel chants because I do not see Kessel as a compatible player with Babcock.

Even in the event we don't get Babcock, I think Shanahan has a vision that Kessel doesn't mesh with.

The only reason I think Kessel is still here is due to Shanahan biding time until he gets a crack at Babcock, and can let him test the Kessel waters before a decision is made to trade him (or whoever the next coach is, if it's Dale Hunter, same deal).

Carlyle/Nonis are dead-men walking.

Are you suggesting the the Toronto Maple Leafs should trade Phil Kessel based on the reasoning that you think he is not compatible with the coach of the Detroit Red Wings?

 

[Mess]

I don't recall that ever happening.

I remember the "Give Domi the C" chants when fans were frustrated with Sundin. Fans aren't always the brightest.

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[Al14]

This.

Carlyle isn't the problem but TBH if Babcock chooses Toronto he's gone anyways.

Also, it's probably not a good idea for this fan base to boo another coach out of town, when someone as promising as Babcock is kicking the organization's tires.

Sometimes, it is a good idea to slap lipstick on a pig...

I further agree with Trade Kessel chants because I do not see Kessel as a compatible player with Babcock.

Even in the event we don't get Babcock, I think Shanahan has a vision that Kessel doesn't mesh with.

The only reason I think Kessel is still here is due to Shanahan biding time until he gets a crack at Babcock, and can let him test the Kessel waters before a decision is made to trade him (or whoever the next coach is, if it's Dale Hunter, same deal).

Carlyle/Nonis are dead-men walking.

Trading Kessel should have been his priority starting April 12, 2014.

He should have gotten a boatload of a return this past trade deadline, or entry draft, or the dog days of summer! He chose to try and trade for Josh Gorges, sign an aging Stéphane Robidas, and, hire a crew of inexperienced executives! And, don't give me the excuse that Nonis is in charge as the G.M., as we all know he's a lame duck G.M.

How about you get off your duff Shanahan, and IMPROVE the on-ice product! Your evaluating, analyzing, and reviewing, should be complete by now!