WCQF/PDSF: (P1) Calgary Flames vs (WC2) Colorado Avalanche | Series Tied 1-1

[Volica]

BTW where's this Colorado has no depth coming from? Comparing the production of the two teams the only notable difference is literally Tkachuk:
Colorado Avalanche Stats | 2018-2019
Calgary Flames Stats | 2018-2019

Well. Yes. Having a guy who'd play on almost every top line in the league on your second line constitutes better depth in general.

I mean, having a Selke level ~50 point 2C, a ~40 point 3/4C and and an additional ~15 goal, PK monster secondary 3/4C is also a big difference in depth. Having guys like James Neal and Sam Bennett on your third line is a luxury; while no guy lit the score lamp this season, both play vital roles in Calgary.

It's also worth mentioning defensive depth. Calgary's sitting guys in the pressbox that could arguably make Colorado's top 6D depth.

 

[Ararana]

Whatever happens tonight lets just both be happy we're not the Oilers.

 

[returnofthemack29]

Well. Yes. Having a guy who'd play on almost every top line in the league on your second line constitutes better depth in general.

I mean, having a Selke level ~50 point 2C, a ~40 point 3/4C and and an additional ~15 goal, PK monster secondary 3/4C is also a big difference in depth. Having guys like James Neal and Sam Bennett on your third line is a luxury; while no guy lit the score lamp this season, both play vital roles in Calgary.

It's also worth mentioning defensive depth. Calgary's sitting guys in the pressbox that could arguably make Colorado's top 6D depth.

Not after this game when the Avs will be able to Makar into their lineup.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Whatever happens tonight lets just both be happy we're not the Oilers.

That was what my dad said at Thanksgiving dinner last year.

 

[GirardIsStupid]

If Avs score a goal today, I'll start a parade.

 

[SniperHF]

GDT: - WCQF Game 2 | Avalanche @ Flames | 10:30 PM | NBCSN,CBC,TVAS

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

All I know is, game one was pretty boring, and really took some of the wind out of my sails for a series that I was really excited for.

After game two, I'm seriously excited for the rest of the series. Best game of the day today IMO although I didn't see much of Nashville/Dallas.

 

[Muffin]

MacKinnon was next to Backlund at the red line, Backlund turned around and MacKinnon was already in the slot

 

[c9777666]

Lucky shot by MacKinnon.

 

[JeremyTB]

MacKinnon's line had their way with Calgary all game despite Calgary having the last change. That doesn't bode well the next 2 games for Calgary when the Avs get the last change.

 

[avsfan09]

Well. Yes. Having a guy who'd play on almost every top line in the league on your second line constitutes better depth in general.

I mean, having a Selke level ~50 point 2C, a ~40 point 3/4C and and an additional ~15 goal, PK monster secondary 3/4C is also a big difference in depth. Having guys like James Neal and Sam Bennett on your third line is a luxury; while no guy lit the score lamp this season, both play vital roles in Calgary.

It's also worth mentioning defensive depth. Calgary's sitting guys in the pressbox that could arguably make Colorado's top 6D depth.

Compher and Soderberg>>Bennett and Neal.

 

[cgf]

I still love Jimmothy

 

[cgf]

Lucky shot by MacKinnon.

True, but MacK gets lucky a lot

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Compher and Soderberg>>Bennett and Neal.

What role do those guys play on each team, though? Soderberg is the Avalanche's 2nd line center. His direct comparison is Mikael Backlund, and he loses that comparison.

 

[Avsboy]

True, but MacK gets lucky a lot

He has one of the best wristers in the league

 

[GodPucker]

My god is Monohan useless. every time I watch this guy he doesn't create plays, drive anything, etc, Just randomly pots a garbage goal or a rebound here and there.

 

[cgf]

What role do those guys play on each team, though? Soderberg is the Avalanche's 2nd line center. His direct comparison is Mikael Backlund, and he loses that comparison.

Soda's actually our 3C...although our third line has often been our 2nd best line...and Jimmothy is a bottom 6er.

 

[Ivan13]

Lucky shot by MacKinnon.

You really do you don’t you?

Anyways, beat them like a rented mule. Where’s this scary Calgary team that will beat us in 4? Thanking Smith they aren’t 2 in the hole going to Denver?

 

[avsfan09]

This is a perfect example. Comments like these just further the incorrect stereotype that women commentators are inferior to men and give fuel to misogynistic *******s that are looking for any straws to grasp at that discredit commentary on sports by women.

But because of Campbell’s contstantly atrocious commentating performances, ShouldveDraftedFiala is perfectly reasonable...and that’s where the problem lies!

There are so many talented women that can do color commentary on games, but why are we picking the worst ones to represent them???

From what I understand her husband has some pull.

 

[avsfan09]

What role do those guys play on each team, though? Soderberg is the Avalanche's 2nd line center. His direct comparison is Mikael Backlund, and he loses that comparison.

Soderberg did outscore Backlund so it's alot closer than you're insinuating.

Soda's actually our 3C...although our third line has often been our 2nd best line...and Jimmothy is a bottom 6er.

Soda outscored Backlund yet he gets no respect. He quietly puts up his 45-50pts every season.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Soda's actually our 3C...although our third line has often been our 2nd best line...and Jimmothy is a bottom 6er.

Soderberg was 4th among Avalanche forwards in TOI in the regular season and 5th in TOI/GP behind Compher. (Obviously behind the big 3 in both cases.) He seems to me like the #4 guy on that forward group.

 

[cgf]

Soderberg was 4th among Avalanche forwards in TOI in the regular season and 5th in TOI/GP behind Compher. (Obviously behind the big 3 in both cases.) He seems to me like the #4 guy on that forward group.

Yeah, like I said, his line has been our 2nd best in more games than not. But on almost all official team lineups his line is listed 3rd & they are used like a checking line, not a scoring line

 

[cgf]

Soderberg did outscore Backlund so it's alot closer than you're insinuating.


Soda outscored Backlund yet he gets no respect. He quietly puts up his 45-50pts every season.

TBF I'd flip Soda for Backlund in a heartbeat. He should get more Selke talk.

 

[winnipegger]

Mackinnon is DYNAMITE. Colorado in a few years will be a force. I think Calgary will win in 6 but Colorado has arrived as a team.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Yeah, like I said, his line has been our 2nd best in more games than not. But on almost all official team lineups his line is listed 3rd & they are used like a checking line, not a scoring line

I guess you could look at things that way, but if you are doing that with the depth, then you have to say compare Backlund’s and Brassard’s line. Either way, Calgary’s depth is better. But the gap between their depth is overrated, it hasn’t really shown up yet in this series, and I don’t think it will make up the gap between MacKinnon/Grubauer and Monahan/Smith.

I think the gap in depth is bigger on defense, though.

Soderberg did outscore Backlund so it's alot closer than you're insinuating.

By all of 2 points, and Backlund is an elite defensive player. He’s not the Selke level guy that Flames fans think he is, but he’s damn good and a lot better than Soderberg in that department.

For the record, I am rooting for the Avalanche and I think they will win the series. But the reason that I believe they will win is because their #1C and #1G are miles ahead of Calgary’s and Calgary doesn’t have the depth to overcome that. Calgary does still have the better depth though IMO.