Proposal: WAS-PHI
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Just make it a 2nd at this point, who cares.
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I would imagine that Philly would seek a 1st for Simmonds. That being said I don't think there is anything wrong with the value there, I'd imagine Burakovsky isn't necessarily a highly sought after piece at the moment but I'm sure that if someone thinks he fits what they're trying to do they would value him around a first.
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I wouldnt be upset if this happened. If theres anyone on this team i'd love to see get a chance to raise the cup, its definitely Simmonds.
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Maybe I'm off base, but it seems like a bad trade for Philly?
Granted, Burakovsky is struggling right now, but he also has to be qualified at 3.25 mil this year and its not exactly clear that he's worth that?
wouldn't Philly prefer a 1st and an NHL body? Or is Simmonds not worth that?
Granted, Burakovsky is struggling right now, but he also has to be qualified at 3.25 mil this year and its not exactly clear that he's worth that?
wouldn't Philly prefer a 1st and an NHL body? Or is Simmonds not worth that?
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I like this trade.
Would hate to see Simmonds and Wilson on the same team, especially one in which we would play a lot, but I think this is a good trade.
Well done OP
Would hate to see Simmonds and Wilson on the same team, especially one in which we would play a lot, but I think this is a good trade.
Well done OP
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This might be my favorite proposal ever on HF and I’ve always staunchly defended Burt. Not sure I’d add the pick but if it’s necessary so be it.
It’s becoming more and more clear he needs more TOI, higher responsibility, and some good complementary players on his line to produce and he’s never going to get that in Wsh. I used to question the difference between he and Vrana and it’s become no question Vrana is a driver and Burt a right-lane kinda guy. Still can be a good player but it’s unlikely to happen in Wsh. I think he’d do well in EDM with McDavid but if a player needs THAT to put it together, the odds are not favorable. Burakovsky is trending into MoJohansson territory for me.
It’s becoming more and more clear he needs more TOI, higher responsibility, and some good complementary players on his line to produce and he’s never going to get that in Wsh. I used to question the difference between he and Vrana and it’s become no question Vrana is a driver and Burt a right-lane kinda guy. Still can be a good player but it’s unlikely to happen in Wsh. I think he’d do well in EDM with McDavid but if a player needs THAT to put it together, the odds are not favorable. Burakovsky is trending into MoJohansson territory for me.
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With Holmgren at the helm right now, you might as well add a 2nd to Simmonds cuz it's gonna happen.
I think this is a solid proposal that really comes down to team philosophy and situation. Burt has talent and could be a consistent 20-goal guy....in the right situation. Unfortunately, as others have said, he rarely drives play and is more a complimentary player. So, if he comes at a good cap hit, he's the kind of guy you want in the top 6 with players like Voracek and Giroux.
Wsh will probably need to move on and acquiring Simmonds for the playoffs is a fine way to do that. Maybe make the pick conditional on resigning.
Wsh will probably need to move on and acquiring Simmonds for the playoffs is a fine way to do that. Maybe make the pick conditional on resigning.
This only seems like a bad trade for Washington because not enough people watch Burakovsky play. He’s not going through a bad slump or two. He’s had a rough hundred games or so.
I’d be pretty excited if the Caps could turn Burakovsky into an impact rental. At playoff time, Simmonds is exactly the type of banger with skill that the Caps want in their lineup. He fits really well with how they play.
Realistically, though, Philly should hold out for a first rounder instead.
If the Flyers believe they can turn it around for a guy who hasn’t found his footing, though, it might be appealing. It’s undoubtedly a thought-provoking proposal.
I’d be pretty excited if the Caps could turn Burakovsky into an impact rental. At playoff time, Simmonds is exactly the type of banger with skill that the Caps want in their lineup. He fits really well with how they play.
Realistically, though, Philly should hold out for a first rounder instead.
If the Flyers believe they can turn it around for a guy who hasn’t found his footing, though, it might be appealing. It’s undoubtedly a thought-provoking proposal.
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Seems like both fanbases are in agreement but I suspect it's because they're both overrating the guy they're getting.
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Simmonds is a guy who's scored nearly 50% of his goals on the powerplay since arriving in Philadelphia. As a right shot, he would be in direct competition with TJ Oshie, Tom Wilson, and Brett Connolly for powerplay time. Further still, his best PP attributes would be slightly miscast on the Caps PP scheme (the right shooting bumper position for the Caps is further away from the net than Simmonds typically plays). Barring Oshie's injury being much more significant than currently thought (which is a possibility), Simmonds isn't a great fit for the Caps.
I'd be interested in Michael Raffl, however. Caps could use another PK forward.
I'd be interested in Michael Raffl, however. Caps could use another PK forward.
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I am confused.
Burakovsky is not better than Giroux or JVR at LW.
This year he has 6 points in 24 games. Lindblom has 11 points in 24 games.
So for 3 million, he is producing less than the sub 1 million Lindblom.
Seems like that is a waste of money and just clutters things for Lindblom.
I would rather just trade Simmonds for picks at this point....or at the very least, a RW replacement coming back in a deal, not a LW.
Burakovsky is not better than Giroux or JVR at LW.
This year he has 6 points in 24 games. Lindblom has 11 points in 24 games.
So for 3 million, he is producing less than the sub 1 million Lindblom.
Seems like that is a waste of money and just clutters things for Lindblom.
I would rather just trade Simmonds for picks at this point....or at the very least, a RW replacement coming back in a deal, not a LW.
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we are only 10 pts any from #1 thats only 5 game needed if everyone else ***ts the bed
