News: Vladislav Gavrikov is the latest ''trade-related'' scratch

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Ooooh. Mysterious.

Captain Mysterious

 

[Cowumbus]

I’m honestly not a fan of teams doing this. I understand scratching a player if a trade is imminent, but scratching them well before a trade is finalized seems bogus.

They didn’t do it with Nyquist and now will lose him for nothing.

 

[Xoggz22]

This is bogus. It's one thing if the trade is done in principal, and the teams are just waiting on the formal paperwork. But just holding a player out because he might be traded eventually is dumb.

It's not dumb and given CBJ already had an issue with Nyquist getting hurt I'm sure they don't want to risk another asset. They have very few to move this year and he's a high end asset. It sucks, yes, but it makes sense and is not dumb.

 

[Xoggz22]

Gary Bettman had it right: there's no tanking by the coaches and players. But man, do the GMs give it their best shot.

How far will GMs go with this trend? Maybe next season someone will sit a player for "trade reasons" starting at training camp and flush the whole season away?

except, this isn't about tanking. This team with or without Gavrikov is not going to change their fortune in the last 29 games or so. This team has been decimated by injuries to the point they are already icing 1/2 an AHL team. Does it hurt more? Sure, he's our best current defenseman. He's also one of the highest rated assets to move that isn't going to sign. He would be playing if Columbus was anywhere close to competing but at this point they don't want Nyquist 2.0 so they'll hold him out. Beyond Chychrun there isn't another D that can provide the value and limited cap hit that Gavy does. This makes sense.

 

[Xoggz22]

Fair enough... yet the ask of Chychrun is still two firsts, and a decent prospect. The 2024 would likely need protection.... and probably end up a 2025 pick. It's still a rich pickup, for a team who should be using these assets to build within.

They are flush with assets (Top 5 prospect pool and only going to add this year)... injuries too. I get the point but this is actually a path that would make some sense. Unfortunately I don't think the timing to do this would be the trade deadline for the CBJ. May not matter given the state of the current defense.

 

[Seachd]

Oilers shouldn't worry about whether a deadline guy is going to re-sign or not. Fix that D, get somebody in place, even as a rental, the West is prime for the taking THIS year.

This makes a lot of sense when you're talking about someone like Karlsson. Not so much when it's Gavrikov.

 

[I3LI3]

lol

 

[Martin Skoula]

Surely the CBA's grievance procedure doesn't include roster decisions though? Scratching players, for any reason, seems like SOP in the NHL. It's not like it would impact their pay?

What’s stopping a team from shutting down their player a month out before the trade deadline just to play it safe and help the tank? That’s a month that would hurt the player’s salary negotiation position in UFA.

 

[Viqsi]

lol

"Buy now! By next week the price will be up to a 1st and 2nd!"

 

[Jovavic]

lol

I do this all the time on Facebook Marketplace. I have an item I'd be fine with 100, sell at 150 and get talked down to 125.

 

[MessierII]

Scratched for bedard purposes

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Columbus should have signed him now they are going to eat their own Crap cause not one will give into the demands of a 1stRounder,2nd Rounder and 3rd Rounder that's asinine for a rental. Gavrikov will go to the highest bidder during Free Agency and he looks to be a pretty good top 4 D-man to me

 

[The Andrew Peeke Fan]

Was he good at one point?

 

[Viqsi]

Columbus should have signed him

Still trying to.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

lol

Teams should laugh at that price

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I'd give up a mid to late first if I thought I had a legit shot at signing him.

Good dmen are hard to find.

 

[Sinistril]

What’s stopping a team from shutting down their player a month out before the trade deadline just to play it safe and help the tank? That’s a month that would hurt the player’s salary negotiation position in UFA.

That's what I'm asking. Is there CBA language preventing specifically this? I would be surprised but I don't know anything about the nhl cba. I wouldn't expect to see any contract have a clause that says "you cannot pay someone not to work to help your organizational future". Some players spend the better part of a year in the press box. Maybe this would have come up with taxi squads during covid?

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

lol

I mean it's a first round pick, that should be the price. That or a 2nd and C prospect or around there.

 

[jaric1862]

Reading Pierre Lebrun's Article, I'm pretty convinced Gavrikov will be the guy who ends up with the Oilers. I could see they doing a deal around Picks+Puljujarvi for Gavrikov+Nyquist(LTIR until playoffs)

 

[Leafs87]

Toews is already out with a mystery illness.

Equipment allergy?

Its almost like tanking on purpose. It doesn't seem right. Especially when we are over 2 weeks from the trade deadline.

What if he gets injured and they end up with nothing?

 

[toddkaz]

Equipment allergy?



What if he gets injured and they end up with nothing?

Yes, should have scratched him earlier like 20 games ago amirite?

 

[majormajor]

Reading Pierre Lebrun's Article, I'm pretty convinced Gavrikov will be the guy who ends up with the Oilers. I could see they doing a deal around Picks+Puljujarvi for Gavrikov+Nyquist(LTIR until playoffs)

The wild thing about that is that even without retention there is more cap coming from the Edmonton side. The Jackets could easily retain half and it will be $1.4m total for Gavrikov and Nyquist, $3m for JP.

Gavrikov @50%
Nyquist @0%

For

1st rounder
Conditional 4th (becomes 3rd with 10+ gp for Nyquist, becomes 2nd rounder with 15+ gp)
Puljujarvi

 

[kdog82]

I would trade Bruins 1st for Gavrikov as long as Columbus is taking Reilly back.

1st + 3rd + Reilly for Gavrikov.

 

[rsteen]

I think the Bruins might get more bang for the back out of upgrading Smith than upgrading Forbort, so does that leave them with anything to do that? Sounds like the Blues want a first for Barbashev too.

 

[Cowumbus]

I would trade Bruins 1st for Gavrikov as long as Columbus is taking Reilly back.

1st + 3rd + Reilly for Gavrikov.

Would be even more funny because he refused to sign with us after we drafted him.