Waived: Viktor Stalberg on unconditional waivers
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Enoch
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Byrddog
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Dave is a killer
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Doesn't matter, Poile is the GM, ergo has last say on personnel decisions, not the other way around.
deanwormer
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At best, you could argue that Trotz *might* have liked a Hendricks or Nystrom; Cullen and Stalledberg are hardly cut from the kind of players we like to think are trotz types. Well.... Hendricks - didn't have a problem trading him. Nystrom - looks like he's still staying and he played plenty under Lavy until he got hurt.
If it's not all on Poile it's mostly; plus he's the bloody GM - it's his responsibility to pick the players, and even if you want to say he's gonna' give some deference to his coaches choices he doesn't have to give out the HORRENDOUS contracts.
deanwormer
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On a positive note, buying out the stinker-of-a-contract, as well as Dickie's, show's at least some financial stability and progress for the organization. Last time we had a contract like this we had to give away a young cheap PP specialist Dman to get someone to take Lombardi's deal.
Stals problem is he just can't stay healthy. If you take his season out to 82 games for last year he would have had 33 pts. 5 pts behind Neal. Now I am not saying he is as good as Neal but he sure played well in Milwaukee 20 gp 17pts and 2 hat tricks. When healthy and in the right system he has shown he can score. Just not sure he can stay healthy.
No Trotz said numerous times the he and Poile sat down and identified every player we needed and that we got every player they identified.
So he's as much to blame. Having said that, Trotz lost his job after that year. Poile's clock needs to be ticking. Our drafting has been average, trading average (one incredible, one average and a few worthless), free agent signing has been bad to average. Asset management, average at best....
You can't prorate Stalberg's numbers to 82 games and compare them to Neal's 67 games.
Stalberg's prorated to 82 games points is 32.8
Neal's prorated to 82 games points is 45.2
btw, I think most of us were disappointed in Neal's production.
nomorekids
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I don't know how much Trotz was involved in Stalberg's acquisition. There seemed to be an immediate grudge toward Stalberg on the part of Trotz, starting at the very first training camp (prior to VS getting hurt). After recovering, he was given piecemeal scoring line icetime, and spent most of his time getting paired with Gaustad and Nystrom.
Our most recent exposure to Stalberg was this year's playoff series vs Chicago. I don't know how you could look at that and say, "god, i'd rather pay this guy not to play here than keep him."
But the team also noted Matt Cullen and Eric Nystrom as "critical components" of the roster.
Our most recent exposure to Stalberg was this year's playoff series vs Chicago. I don't know how you could look at that and say, "god, i'd rather pay this guy not to play here than keep him."
But the team also noted Matt Cullen and Eric Nystrom as "critical components" of the roster.
NSH615
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Agree. And on the Nystrom front, he is the least critical part of the roster. With him missing, the team (especially the 4th line) seemed to run smoother. I would even go as far as to say that Watson playing in Milwaukee last year was more critical to last year's team than Nystrom.
Stalberg was all speed but no finish. Thought he looked better than he has and shown improvement but in the end just couldn't take it to the next level and be more of a scoring factor. Felt he was a hard worker though and gave effort but just wasn't enough. Wish him best of luck.
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Agreed on all fronts. If a Stalberg (+ for Bozak?) trade was possible, I'd be all for it, but there's no way the he is bad enough to pay not to play, and it isn't like we need the cap space.
Armourboy
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Could have easily been a situation where he knew things were not going to get better here so he asked to be bought out so he could move on. Purely conjecture, but I wouldn't blame him if he did. Could be that Poile just wanted to be done with it and it was one less vet clogging up the pipeline. It's not like he was really needed.
Byrddog
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You have to think that Poile has tried to shop him around and found no interest probably due in large part to the contract. Placing him on waivers was a last attempt to move on without costing the team anything. He was unwilling to trade another asset with the guy to move him so he is forced to place him on unconditional waivers and buy him out. There will be a team that will take a chance on him for a cheap contract Florida and Arizona come to mind. Stalberg for all his flaws has been a professional through all of this. He did all that was asked of him without trashing the organization.
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im guessing any trade scenarios Poile had would have required us to take back someone elses bad contract and/or retain salary and cap hit, and in the end it was probably the most economical thing to just buy him out.
I think Stalberg would be the kind of guy who would do well on an expansion team. Hope he can hang on and stay in the league until expansion happens.
I think Stalberg would be the kind of guy who would do well on an expansion team. Hope he can hang on and stay in the league until expansion happens.
That was my impression in Milwaukee. If he could finish, he would have doubled his points scored in the AHL.
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It would have been better if it were Nystrom. I saw more value in Stalberg than I do at all in Nystrom, but oh well.. what is done is done now.
Filip Forceberg
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Better scoring instinct?
Regular season last year:
Eric Nystrom|60|7|5|12|0.20
Viktor Stalberg|25|2|8|10|0.40
Oh and the playoffs, I realize that Nystrom did not play but...
Viktor Stalberg|6|1|2|3|0.50
While Nystrom may have had more goals, he also played more games but had half the PPG rate of Stalberg. I would have liked to have seen Viktor for a longer stint than we had him, but oh well.
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