[VIDEO] Mark Messier, The Anti-Canuck - A 20-Minute Look At His Catastrophic Time in Vancouver

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    The Lost Shifts Ep. 2: Mark Messier, the Anti-Canuck - Vancouver Is Awesome



    In the storied mythos of the Vancouver Canucks, Mark Messier is undoubtedly the team's greatest villain. No coach, no general manager, nor any other player remains as reviled as the notorious Messier. If one were to consult any lifelong Canucks supporter for their opinion of their team's captain from 1997 to 2000, the responses would be unanimous: he epitomizes the injustices that have maligned the team throughout their fifty-year history.

    He was always known for his gritty style. He was a talented playmaker, and he also possessed an excellent wrist shot. He was intelligent with the puck and reliable defensively. However, he punished opponents with vicious elbows, body checks and a malicious, physical approach. He was the ideal two-way forward.

    In Vancouver, his physicality was absent. From the very beginning, commentators noticed a complete lack of intensity from the player frequently regarded as fierce and passionate. He was passive and lethargic. His words were hypocritical. His conduct destroyed his reputation in Vancouver.

    In Episode II of The Lost Shifts, we examine Messier's play in one of his earliest performances with the Canucks: a home game against the Detroit Red Wings on October 26, 1997. It became clear within only a month that this acquisition was a blunder of catastrophic proportions.

    Our format today deviates from that of our Pavel Bure episode (Episode I). In order to illustrate Messier's apathetic conduct in the most effective and concise fashion, today's presentation features every piece of footage from the match in which he appears on-screen as well as a few extended shifts where his absence from the frame should be considered troublesome.

    Interview audio from Dan Russell's CKNW 980 show Sportstalk, as well as the insights of numerous commentators can be heard throughout the video. Episode II concludes with a five-minute montage feature.

    Read the full article detailing his story of betrayal and sabotage at Pass It To Bulis: The Lost Shifts Ep. 2: Mark Messier, the Anti-Canuck - Vancouver Is Awesome

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    "Messier sucked as a Canuck"

    Five words.

    It doesn't take a 20 minute video to rehash the obvious.
     
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    Mr. Clean sucks
     
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    I was having a bad day hearing Tanev was done

    Then it got worse as it sounds like the entire season is done

    I didn't think it could get any worse . . . and then I saw this thread pop up
     
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    Honestly, no, that really doesn't cover it. If he'd just been a bad signing who played poorly, things would have been pretty different.
     
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    Well then, we shall click as we please, lol.
     
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    Tell that to Rob Fai
     
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    Too soon. Give me another 10 years and we'll see.
     
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    Scary to see how disinterested he looked. sigh. :( It is interesting to see Ohlund in it though. I think it was his first season (9th game?)
    What is the music at 9:36 in the video?
     
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    That's gunna be 20 minutes I'll want back if I watch it. I lived thru it already
     
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    Yeah, no power in the universe can make me click on that vid.
     
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    As I recall, Messier lived in Point Roberts, because he and his accountants wanted to reduce his exposure to Canadian taxes. So if the only time he spent in Canada was to attend a two hour practice and 40 home games, then he was considered a 'non-resident'. It was the same strategy employed by Torts, as I recall.

    It was obvious Messier didn't want to be here.....but by the time he arrived he was firmly on the backside of the mountain and the contract from Orca Bay and the Canucks was his last 'big score'. I doubt Pat Quinn wanted to sign him either, but got overruled by management....and was gone himself shortly thereafter.

    So no, this sad chapter won't figure prominently in the Canucks 50th anniversary hoopla.
     
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    Pretty sure Mess never lived in Point Roberts as I got to deliver a 5-ton truck full of furniture to his downtown condo about 6 months after he signed.

    I can confirm Torts did indeed live in Point Roberts as we would see him kicking around Tsawwassen all the time.
     
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    Little did I know, as a kid, seeing the Lay's commercial and thinking Messier was still a star performer.
     
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    who is Rob Fai?
     
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    I've always said, for me it wasn't the Maki stuff or the Linden stuff or the Keenan stuff or any of that shit. For me what sucked was his play. His play with us was so mediocre and uninspired it was like we had signed the anti-Messier... which was doubly galling because up to then, the real Messier had been kicking our ass eight ways to Sunday for a decade and a half.
     
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    If I don't mind asking, where did Messier live in downtown Vancouver?
    What area?
     
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    Actually yeah, I have no idea but on the main board thread someone posted his hand written contract and one of the stipulations was a 3 bedroom apartment... can't recall if it specified downtown or not. Not sure where he was at that age but I get Messier would want the downtown lifestyle rather being way the heck out in Point Roberts.
     
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    My god... Messier close to the twilight of his career puts up 162 points in 207 gp and is considered the anti-canuck.
    How old was he at that time? early 40's? You guy's are too much....
     
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    Have to agree with other posters here.....Messier's years with the Canucks co-oincided with a lot of bad teams and turmoil in the front office.

    But nowhere near the worst UFA signing ever....that dubious honor belongs to Louie Eriksson, hands-down.
     
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    Messier was a SOB for the Canucks but having worked, with Keenan, to move Linden out got Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Mccabe and a 3rd round pick (?), it was magical. - We must not forget Messier was the consolation prize for not getting Gretzky after the signing ultimatum he got. Messier was a spare part by 36 and he should have kept his ego in check instead of acting like he was still boss.
    Lay's chips don't taste the same now...
     
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    He also missed games to injury in 2 of the 3 years he was here...
     
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