Remove Virtanen and the 1st and it's a pretty balanced deal and good for both teams IMO.
Proposal: Vancouver-NYR
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Remove Virtanen and the 1st and it's a pretty balanced deal and good for both teams IMO.
Bleach Clean
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Can you show your homework in terms of equating the performance of Klein to the performance of Tanev last year? I'm just curious to know if I am looking at each player's performance differently than I should be...
There are a couple of things holding Tanev back from being recognized as a "top D" league-wide IMO. They are:
1) More PPPs/Power Play time. He needs to pad his stats from 18-20 points up to the 26~ point per year (Top60 Defender scoring/Top Pairing). Some power play time would help him do that. That way, the markers would change to top pairing scoring and 'elite' defense. That should be enough to have him earn consideration as a #1 (Top30) in the league.
2) Needs to stay healthy. Has not played a full year. More games should mean more points and a greater affect on the Canucks' ability to win.
3) Most frequent linemates should be the Sedins. There has been a shift in VAN's rotation where the 3rd pair plays sheltered minutes with the Sedins, and the Tanev pairing is left to support the 2nd line (Sutter's line), though it is early. If he stays with the Sedins, that gives him the best chance to produce the requisite offense at ES.
The shortfall in Tanev's game that prevents him from getting league-wide recognition as a "TopD" can be influenced for the better. I'd like to see the Canucks try to rectify these factors before any move is made with this player.
Klein loves to block shots , can skate, makes the safe pass and does everything else Tanev does with the same low key nature that Tanev does while earning half the salay that Tanev does and is also still signed till end of next year.
So Canucks are basically trading Tanev for another guy that's the same as Tanev to go along with a 23yr old that on the cusp of becoming a 30 goal scorer and whatever else comes from NYR side.
Not a bad trade
not happening.
Yup gotta deal those old vets like Stepan.
disingenuous of you as you know from my posting on the rangers board that I mean vet based upon not chronological age, but seniority, which is a factor in salary - impacts cap hit, etc.
someone who gets it and pays attention
Stepan is not a greybeard and is available for, and a good fit, for a core swap with Tanev. Van adds.
Then no deal, no prob
Miller is not going
skyo
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The swap of Chris's - Tanev for Kreider is the base foundation for a solid hockey deal, both teams fans bases are neither too ecstatic about it = fair value.
Tanev the corsi god - the analytics favourite, basically the anti-staal/girardi, he helps your team win, any team, even on team canada, players loved his game.
Tanev the corsi god - the analytics favourite, basically the anti-staal/girardi, he helps your team win, any team, even on team canada, players loved his game.
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KingDeathMetal
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I would do this trade. Bit of an overpayment from the Rangers, considering Miller is a 1st line winger by any standard, plus we are hurt by trading Klein along with the first, but I'm OK with overpaying and getting Tanev when Tampa could easily offer Drouin for him. I want Tanev on this team.
KingDeathMetal
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Except Kreider can do it all. Killer offensive threat and a very good defensive player. Tanev is one-dimensional (granted he's the very best at that dimension). So I agree, Tanev does not get them Kreider. Miller is more in line with the value of Tanev, though we'd have to add.
Oscar Lindberg
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But Virtanen does nothing for us. Better removing him of the deal and not having to pay that much.
