Proposal: [VAN-STL] Vince Dunn to Vancouver

[Tv9924]

The Blues currently can't afford to sign Pietrangelo and Dunn both. This trade creates room for them to re-sign Pietrangelo while getting back a quality top 6 F prospect in Hoglander, who was ranked 30th in Corey Pronman's midseason NHL prospect ranking:

30. Nils Hoglander, LW, Vancouver (Rogle-SHL)
Dec. 20, 2000 | 5-foot-9 | 190 pounds
Drafted: 40th-overall (2019)
Previous ranking: No. 76
Skating: 55
Puck Skills: 70
Physical Game: 35
Hockey Sense: 60
Hoglander has been good in the SHL this season and was one of the top scorers at the world juniors. His skill is truly something different, and in terms of pure hands, there are few in the world who can handle a puck like him. Hoglander isn’t the biggest, but he’s tough and wins battles versus men. There are reasonable questions on how well he distributes the puck and how quick he is for a small forward, but his creativity is so good and he’s so tough that I don’t feel those limitations will hold him back. He’s a player on the upswing.​

And here's the trade:

To Vancouver:

• Vince Dunn (RFA)
• Oskar Sundqvist (2.75M)

To St. Louis:

• Nils Hoglander (ELC)
• 3rd round pick 2022

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[stl76]

Sundqvist is not a throw in.

You could completely remove Sundqvist and this is still a very easy no thank you.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Pass for me.

 

[Alklha]

Wow.

Yeah, that doesn't work for the Blues on any level.

 

[tfriede2]

Wait, you just throw in Sundqvist as if he’s an afterthought? Good lord no.

 

[simon IC]

Sorry, this is an absolutely horrible proposal. Terrible for the Blues.

 

[67Blues]

 

[Legend123]

Wow thats bad

 

[Linkens Mastery]

No. This makes the Blues worse now and in the future.

 

[Halla]

a good but not great prospect and a 3rd for two good NHLers?

this is pretty bad. 1st+Hoglander makes sense

 

[Dr Quincy]

I like Hoglander, but STL can do better.

 

[Cogburn]

I'd rather keep Hoglander...but that's still a bad deal for St Louis.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Oh hell f-kin no.

 

[GoodbyeLuongo]

Man, I know Dunn is an analytics darling and all but he was putrid against Vancouver.

That said, I can't see the Blues making this deal.

Also not sure I see VAN dealing Hoglander. They're gonna need cheap middle-six offensive option soon and Hoglander seems to be on that trajectory.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Salary cap says hello to Vancouver

 

[sfvega]

Vancouver, don't you think you've done enough?

 

[BlueDream]

Sundqvist is better than any bottom 6’er on Vancouver’s roster. So no.

 

[Oddbob]

I really like Sundqvist's game, and wouldn't mind him in Detroit even if he is "old" for a rebuild. Good character player you can plug in wherever and not afraid to get involved physically. What is the Blues realistic ask for him if he was to be moved?

 

[tfriede2]

I really like Sundqvist's game, and wouldn't mind him in Detroit even if he is "old" for a rebuild. Good character player you can plug in wherever and not afraid to get involved physically. What is the Blues realistic ask for him if he was to be moved?

A first round pick. And yes, that’s realistic (but if the team attempting to acquire him has a top 10 pick, then obviously that team shouldn’t do it. But an early second doesn’t do it for the Blues). And honestly, I wouldn’t do it for a late first, either. Sundqvist is an important player for the Blues’ window. He can change the momentum of a game with the way he plays.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

a good but not great prospect and a 3rd for two good NHLers?

this is pretty bad. 1st+Hoglander makes sense

He’s a great prospect, our #2 prospect right after Podkolzin.

 

[glenbuis]

Man, I know Dunn is an analytics darling and all but he was putrid against Vancouver.

That said, I can't see the Blues making this deal.

Also not sure I see VAN dealing Hoglander. They're gonna need cheap middle-six offensive option soon and Hoglander seems to be on that trajectory.

I agree with you on Dunn against Vancouver. I thought he would be Montreal's answer for a top 4d . He didn't seem to show much on defense or offense

 

[boots legrand]

I agree with you on Dunn against Vancouver. I thought he would be Montreal's answer for a top 4d . He didn't seem to show much on defense or offense

 

[boots legrand]

What you saw of Dunn against the Canucks was a small sample outlier. He' s
a top 4 defenseman with PP potential IMO - terrific skating ability and very elusive with the puck on his stick.

 

[boots legrand]

The Blues currently can't afford to sign Pietrangelo and Dunn both. This trade creates room for them to re-sign Pietrangelo while getting back a quality top 6 F prospect in Hoglander, who was ranked 30th in Corey Pronman's midseason NHL prospect ranking:

30. Nils Hoglander, LW, Vancouver (Rogle-SHL)
Dec. 20, 2000 | 5-foot-9 | 190 pounds
Drafted: 40th-overall (2019)
Previous ranking: No. 76
Skating: 55
Puck Skills: 70
Physical Game: 35
Hockey Sense: 60
Hoglander has been good in the SHL this season and was one of the top scorers at the world juniors. His skill is truly something different, and in terms of pure hands, there are few in the world who can handle a puck like him. Hoglander isn’t the biggest, but he’s tough and wins battles versus men. There are reasonable questions on how well he distributes the puck and how quick he is for a small forward, but his creativity is so good and he’s so tough that I don’t feel those limitations will hold him back. He’s a player on the upswing.​

And here's the trade:

To Vancouver:

• Vince Dunn (RFA)
• Oskar Sundqvist (2.75M)

To St. Louis:

• Nils Hoglander (ELC)
• 3rd round pick 2022

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

a good but not great prospect and a 3rd for two good NHLers?

this is pretty bad. 1st+Hoglander makes sense

Given your track record, it must have been difficult to even call Hoglander “good but not great.”

Not that I disagree with you on this proposal.