Proposal: Van - Ari Kuzmenko - Crouse

[JiriBubla1972]

I will start by saying I am a Kuzmenko fan and think he is very talented. I would like to keep him, but I feel that Tocchet feels differently. Swapping a R wing for another R wing that would help us in the playoffs (I know we also need a 2C and a D). I don't want a rental, so I had my eyes on Crouse who would definitely be a Tocchet-like player. Crouse has three years left at 4.3Mil so we would also save a little cap space.

Would a deal like Kuzmenko, and our 2024 1st round pick be enough to pry him from Arizona?
**Added Podkolzin after original post**

Thoughts

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[Mrfenn92]

Don’t see Arizona moving Crouse at all

 

[Ragdoll]

Going to take a lot more than a late first to get Crouse let alone taking on the Kuzmenko contract.

 

[Magic Mittens]

I'm not a fan of either team, but I'd rather Crouse easily over Kuz even with a pick.

 

[Xirik]

Crouse isn't going anywhere. He's to integral to their team.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Was Crouse playing last night?
Never heard his name.
Never saw him do anything.

The Invisible Man.

Thought he was supposed to be good from his highlights.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Not nearly enough for Crouse. Not sure how teams view Kuzmenko as the risk may be high given his contract.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Was Crouse playing last night?
Never heard his name.
Never saw him do anything.

The Invisible Man.

Thought he was supposed to be good from his highlights.

So you don’t want him on the Canucks then?

Just a guess but Coyotes fans are probably fine with that.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Was Crouse playing last night?
Never heard his name.
Never saw him do anything.

The Invisible Man.

Thought he was supposed to be good from his highlights.

Every athlete is noticable every night especially when there are 82 games in a season.

Highlight videos every night

 

[Jared Dunn]

That offer gets easily beat if Crouse becomes available for trade. Add Podkolzin and you might be cooking

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Every athlete is noticable every night especially when there are 82 games in a season.

Highlight videos every night

For context, you are responding to a poster who continued to argue that Lafreniere plays centre position and his evidence was a photograph with a descriptive caption underneath saying “Lafreniere (centre)” because he was in the middle of 3 players in the photo (in the centre of them). When this was pointed out, the poster kept arguing that Laf plays centre. He’s not posting in good faith.

 

[dustybreaks]

Was Crouse playing last night?
Never heard his name.
Never saw him do anything.

The Invisible Man.

Thought he was supposed to be good from his highlights.

Well at least he’s on the ice regularly and not sitting in the press box right.

 

[samsagat]

Crouse is a typical big guy with some talent that got drafted early, but took an eternity to develop.

He typically didn't become a contributor with the team that drafted him.

But he's a unicorn by NHL GMs and coaches standards...
Power forwards that score 20some goals (on pace to 30 actually) are a rare and sought-after breed in this league.

So no, he won't be traded for a talented but unidimensional offensive forward...
Even less if the aforementioned player is earning 5,5 mil to get scratched because he's in his coach's doghouse.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Well at least he’s on the ice regularly and not sitting in the press box right.

I thought he was more like Tom Wilson turns out he plays like "Gentle" Behn Wilson.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

That offer gets easily beat if Crouse becomes available for trade. Add Podkolzin and you might be cooking

I don’t think so. It’s his D+5 and he’s in the AHL. Not to say that he’s a bust and can’t recover, but his trade value at this point is not meaningful because of limited impact at the NHL level.

The best piece in a Crouse trade can’t be a late 1st. He’s on pace for 30 goals and has term at a friendly number. Arizona making him available for futures is dubious. The Coyotes would certainly be justified in asking for a good, young NHL defenseman in a hockey trade to try to improve the team now. Vancouver can’t offer that.

 

[Cogburn]

Well at least he’s on the ice regularly and not sitting in the press box right.

Only because the community center ice rink Arizona plays at doesn't have room for a press box.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Crouse is one of those guys like Tom Wilson that are just too rare a type of player and the cost to trade would be enormous. The OP wouldn't even get Arizona to consider it.

 

[BKarchitect]

Dog shit for AZ.

No other way to frame it.

Adding Pods changes nothing.

 

[Xirik]

Brzustewicz and Raty would probably interest Arizona more.

 

[BKarchitect]

Brzustewicz and Raty would probably interest Arizona more.

Not really. The Coyotes are 9th in the WC in point percentage and are trying to turn the corner in the rebuild, not ice a team of 20 year-olds.

Crouse is a core player. He’s a leader, he brings size and grit and toughness a group of smaller finesse players and the combo of defensive acumen and goal scoring. And he’s on a beautiful team friendly deal through his prime for the next four years.

Kuzmenko is not interesting for Crouse. Pdk is not interesting for Crouse. Brz is not interesting for Crouse. Raty is not interesting for Crouse. I’m not saying those are crap assets. But they will not even remotely get the attention of Armstrong.

 

[Gurglesons]

This is never happening.

 

[dirtydanglez]

crouse is playing well in az they wont move him

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

crouse is playing well in az they wont move him

an invisible force...

 

[Golden_Jet]

Kuzmenko in every nucks offer, this one is bad for Yotes.

 

[dustybreaks]

Only because the community center ice rink Arizona plays at doesn't have room for a press box.

I actually lol'd to this.