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Well of course but it still matters.
True. Not sure why I made it seem otherwise
Well of course but it still matters.
True. Not sure why I made it seem otherwise
But Malkin is simply, at least to me, so much more fun to watch. And that's really all it's about, right?
Sorry. Yeah normally I'd say they're both about the same but if Crosby can just get back on the straight and narrow playing consistently I think he's capable of anything this era will allow. I can see AO, Stamkos, eventually Tavares, Sedin, etc. having certain years that were decidedly better than Malkin's. Not Crosby though.
Sorry. Yeah normally I'd say they're both about the same but if Crosby can just get back on the straight and narrow playing consistently I think he's capable of anything this era will allow. I can see AO, Stamkos, eventually Tavares, Sedin, etc. having certain years that were decidedly better than Malkin's. Not Crosby though.
I disagree with this. There's a lot of players that are very fun to watch, but that doesn't mean they're great players. Heck, Sean Avery was very fun to watch. Sure, for totally different reasons, but when seeing fun as the only meter, I don't think Avery was far behind Malkin. Again, this says absolutely nothing about how good players they are, but that's exactly the point.
I disagree with this. There's a lot of players that are very fun to watch, but that doesn't mean they're great players. Heck, Sean Avery was very fun to watch. Sure, for totally different reasons, but when seeing fun as the only meter, I don't think Avery was far behind Malkin. Again, this says absolutely nothing about how good players they are, but that's exactly the point.
I think we will agree to disagree on that but time will tell.
So what are you saying about Stamkos 11-12 or Ovechkin 07-08 seasons?
This is silly. We are talking about comparing the two best players in the game and the difference between the two is so small that things like "exciting to watch", "leadership", and "marketability" become the deciding factors. No one asked the question "who is the most fun to watch even if they suck at hockey relative to the rest of the league".
How do you mean
Well BlindWillyMcHurt wrote that And (fun) is really all it's about, right?
So I agree with you. For me "being fun to watch" tells nothing about the player's importance. Sure, it adds marketing value, which is why Rangers signed Avery, but given a chance between Malkin and Avery, no-one would take Avery because he is more fun to watch - other things are way more important.
You said Stamkos or Ovechkin doesn't have better season than Crosby, which I either misunderstood or then I totally disagree with.
edit. Here's the exact quote:
I can see AO, Stamkos, eventually Tavares, Sedin, etc. having certain years that were decidedly better than Malkin's. Not Crosby though.
You said Stamkos or Ovechkin doesn't have better season than Crosby, which I either misunderstood or then I totally disagree with.
edit. Here's the exact quote:
I can see AO, Stamkos, eventually Tavares, Sedin, etc. having certain years that were decidedly better than Malkin's. Not Crosby though.
Eh. I think he was saying that hockey is about being fun to watch. For him, and most fans, it's fun to watch electrifying and talented hockey players. Also, I was using that as an added qualification to decide between two star players that are nearly equal in terms of "who is the better player". I believe he was doing the same. My point is that you kind of cherry picked his statement without using in it's proper context. Not a big deal though.
Hmm... I guess we value different things then. Excitement is what I'm looking for, for example a triple overtime of your favorite team is not necessarily fun, but for sure it is exciting. Those are for me the most important things.
Not that awards are everything, but I've seen a few posts about Malkin taking a back seat to Crosby when they are both in the lineup. Well, Geno did win the Conne Smythe in 2009 and the Art Ross over Sid while both were healthy. Plus, Geno edges out Sid in overall awards (not that it matters much, but it's still worth noting). Their NHL award accomplishments look like this (not including All Star games since Sid has been injured during several):
Malkin
Hart
Ted Lindsay
2 Art Ross
Conne Smythe
Calder (to be fair, Sid would have won in any other year)
Sid
Hart
Rocket Richard
Art Ross
Lester Pearson (now Ted Lindsay)