Proposal: Ullmark to NJ

[SJinNewJersey]

I don't see Boston doing that. Needs to be upped I'd say. Hischier for Ullmark would be an interesting deal but can't see NJ wanting to pay that much. Maybe they would look at Nemec and a pick for him.

 

[Smitty426]

I don't see Boston doing that. Needs to be upped I'd say. Hischier for Ullmark would be an interesting deal but can't see NJ wanting to pay that much. Maybe they would look at Nemec and a pick for him.

My dude, stop!

 

[CellyHard]

Is Mercer for Ullmark something NJ would consider?

Or is Holtz + pick(s) better?

Interesting that Holtz has almost the same numbers with significantly less ice time. Surprised he hasn’t gotten more of a role

 

[Zippy316]

Is Mercer for Ullmark something NJ would consider?

Or is Holtz + pick(s) better?

Interesting that Holtz has almost the same numbers with significantly less ice time. Surprised he hasn’t gotten more of a role

If Devils were to trade Mercer, the target would be Swayman not Ullmark.

 

[wintersej]

Why would Bruins want Vanecek, aren't they trying to contend?

They don’t. I had apparently not recalibrated goalie value enough after NJD fans were saying 2nd + Bahl in the summer, lol.

 

[Devils Army]

Is Mercer for Ullmark something NJ would consider?

Or is Holtz + pick(s) better?

Interesting that Holtz has almost the same numbers with significantly less ice time. Surprised he hasn’t gotten more of a role

That's Lindy Ruff for you.

 

[wintersej]

If Devils were to trade Mercer, the target would be Swayman not Ullmark.

Yeah and Bruins wouldn't do that, so best to keep it to Ullmark.

 

[drede]

I don't see Boston doing that. Needs to be upped I'd say. Hischier for Ullmark would be an interesting deal but can't see NJ wanting to pay that much. Maybe they would look at Nemec and a pick for him.

Goalies don't bring that much value in a trade don't see NJ moving Nemec

 

[BruinsJoe]

All the Markstom talk, which I haven’t been follow closely, makes me wonder what value Ullmark would have to NJD.

He just turned 30 vs Markstom at 34. Million dollar lower cap hit. One year shorter contract.

Bruins could take back VV, but wouldn’t retain.

I’ll start off with Holtz, VV, 2nd.

Dont see the Bruins trade Vezina winner Ullmark, Sway is not extended yet, Ullmark have a M-NTC, Sweenie s not gonna break chemistry between his goalies except for a boatload in return and this : Holtz + VV + 2nd is not a boatload return...Bs need is a center! BUT they need to trade Ullmark cause he s probably at he s highest value right now....

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

Bruins are looking to compete and maximize their cap every year. Zero percent chance they take back VV. He will need to get pawned off to an Arizona or Chicago.

 

[Smitty426]

Is Mercer for Ullmark something NJ would consider?

Or is Holtz + pick(s) better?

Interesting that Holtz has almost the same numbers with significantly less ice time. Surprised he hasn’t gotten more of a role

Coach is dopey

Is Mercer for Ullmark something NJ would consider?

Or is Holtz + pick(s) better?

Interesting that Holtz has almost the same numbers with significantly less ice time. Surprised he hasn’t gotten more of a role

Coach is dopey

 

[oldwpgjet]

lol , Hischier was maybe going too far, I liked the lets throw Hughes in comment too , made me laugh. I don't think Nemec was going too far or someone close to that quality. Potentially great dman for a great goalie. Goaltending market is soft , yes , because almost always , the stud goaltenders aren't on the market. It is the 2nd or 3 rd tier goalies. Leafs , for instance ,haven't had a stud goalie over the past several years and despite a bit of a stacked team up front bow out in the 1st round. Oilers have had McDavid and Draisaitl for closer to 10 years and cheaped out on goalies and still spinning their wheels, and then Jack Campbell fiasco, the leafs castoff. Maybe Skinner can get it done this year for them. I don't remember the details but Vanecek was a pretty cheap acquisition , sometimes you get what you pay for. Still have hopes for Schmid for you guys , looked good in AHL , big step sometimes to NHL. I see Swayman and Ullmark more as stud goalies , a little above the normal goalie market. Neither a Bruins fan or Devils fan, just seemed to be a very interesting topic and I do think it makes sense for the Bruins to take advantage of having 2 #1 goalies and get an asset somewhere else but if it isn't a phenomenal offer , why do it?

 

[Forge]

I don't think Nemec was going too far or someone close to that quality

Yikes

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

All the Markstom talk, which I haven’t been follow closely, makes me wonder what value Ullmark would have to NJD.

He just turned 30 vs Markstom at 34. Million dollar lower cap hit. One year shorter contract.

Bruins could take back VV, but wouldn’t retain.

I’ll start off with Holtz, VV, 2nd.

Sure.

 

[johnnystormcgy]

If Devils were to trade Mercer, the target would be Swayman not Ullmark.

Than the Bruins are going to want more, much, much more.

 

[Nocashstyle]

lol , Hischier was maybe going too far, I liked the lets throw Hughes in comment too , made me laugh. I don't think Nemec was going too far or someone close to that quality. Potentially great dman for a great goalie. Goaltending market is soft , yes , because almost always , the stud goaltenders aren't on the market. It is the 2nd or 3 rd tier goalies. Leafs , for instance ,haven't had a stud goalie over the past several years and despite a bit of a stacked team up front bow out in the 1st round. Oilers have had McDavid and Draisaitl for closer to 10 years and cheaped out on goalies and still spinning their wheels, and then Jack Campbell fiasco, the leafs castoff. Maybe Skinner can get it done this year for them. I don't remember the details but Vanecek was a pretty cheap acquisition , sometimes you get what you pay for. Still have hopes for Schmid for you guys , looked good in AHL , big step sometimes to NHL. I see Swayman and Ullmark more as stud goalies , a little above the normal goalie market. Neither a Bruins fan or Devils fan, just seemed to be a very interesting topic and I do think it makes sense for the Bruins to take advantage of having 2 #1 goalies and get an asset somewhere else but if it isn't a phenomenal offer , why do it?

I don’t think you fully understand how valuable stud young players on ELCs are in a salary cap league.

 

[oldwpgjet]

Maybe the Bruins won't want a valuable potential stud young player , maybe they will want some old bums instead but I doubt it. Where can I get a pair of these Devil colored glasses anyways? Yes, Salary cap management is a huge issue but it is the stupid moves , not the smart moves that blow it up. Sometimes a team is forced into the stupid moves or commits stupid moves ( eg. signing Jack Campbell )and forced to give away picks or players to be compliant but I don't believe this is the case with the Bruins so I just think to get Ullmark or Swayman for that matter, you will need a substantial player or a very substantial prospect to send back and to me Holtz doesn't fit the bill.

 

[Bcap88]

The real question is Who is swayam going to do his douchey little handshake with

 

[BonMorrison]

The real question is Who is swayam going to do his douchey little handshake with

Show me on the doll where Jeremy Swayman hurt you.

 

[McJedi]

I don't see Boston doing that. Needs to be upped I'd say. Hischier for Ullmark would be an interesting deal but can't see NJ wanting to pay that much. Maybe they would look at Nemec and a pick for him.

Wtf?

 

[Nocashstyle]

Maybe the Bruins won't want a valuable potential stud young player , maybe they will want some old bums instead but I doubt it. Where can I get a pair of these Devil colored glasses anyways? Yes, Salary cap management is a huge issue but it is the stupid moves , not the smart moves that blow it up. Sometimes a team is forced into the stupid moves or commits stupid moves ( eg. signing Jack Campbell )and forced to give away picks or players to be compliant but I don't believe this is the case with the Bruins so I just think to get Ullmark or Swayman for that matter, you will need a substantial player or a very substantial prospect to send back and to me Holtz doesn't fit the bill.

Nemec + a pick is an absolutely ridiculous suggestion, no matter how much you try to rationalize it or try to spin it as me being a homer.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Maybe the Bruins won't want a valuable potential stud young player , maybe they will want some old bums instead but I doubt it. Where can I get a pair of these Devil colored glasses anyways? Yes, Salary cap management is a huge issue but it is the stupid moves , not the smart moves that blow it up. Sometimes a team is forced into the stupid moves or commits stupid moves ( eg. signing Jack Campbell )and forced to give away picks or players to be compliant but I don't believe this is the case with the Bruins so I just think to get Ullmark or Swayman for that matter, you will need a substantial player or a very substantial prospect to send back and to me Holtz doesn't fit the bill.

Just take your L and move on.

Nemec for any goalie is ridiculous, let alone a soon to be 31 year old goalie. Nemec is probably the best D prospect in the world right now.

 

[ninetyeight]

I don't think Nemec was going too far or someone close to that quality.

Outside Jack Hughes, I don't think there's no one close to that value in the Devils. He's basically been our best Dman at 20yo and is a former 2OA.

I fear Ullmark is a player that won't look as good outside Boston, it's that excellent defensive system, coaching, winning culture and great defensively responsible players that make him look better than he probably is. Throw him into Ruff's swarm defence shitshow with one of NHLs youngest D cores and his numbers will look a lot different.

That said I might still do that deal if that's the cost. Just to see how it will play out and since Ruff refuses to give Holtz a top9 spot, even though he's one of our top players in esgoals/60.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

If I was New Jersey I would be choosing Swayman over Uhhmark.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Not to insult any Bruins fans there is no one on their team we would trade Nemec for....

Stop