Speculation: Tyler Myers 2022

[Diaspora]

I'm seen posts on the main boards about a Vancouver Canucks teardown. I didn't want to try to deal with the braying jackasses there -- Rags trying to get EP for Kakko and a fart. So I thought I'd run this by you guys first.

He's got a big contract -- $6m thru 23-24. I know this. But he's having a bit of a renaissance this year (so I hear). No one's mistaking him for a Norris trophy winner, but he could help stabilize the right side of our defense for a couple of years (while Jiricek or Nemec develops). He might consider waiving his NTC to relive his Calder trophy experience except this time with a talented, building team.

Some 'nucks fans sound like they're ready to throw in the towel. They desperately need cap relief. They also have Mike DiPietro in the AHL who could help us immediately in goal.

I don't typically go for cavoli riscaldati, but should the Sabres make an offer? Pysyk seems to be working out ok for us. Maybe Miller retained, Dell . . . + . . . ?

Thoughts?

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[member 334057]

I was actually thinking about Myers earlier and whether or not he would be a benefit to the team at this point. His cap hit doesn't really matter to much as they have the space and his contract will be over by the time they need that space anyway. He also seems to be playing fairly well from what I've read, even being a +2 right now on a team with a -14 goal differential which isn't too bad.

I'd be curious what the ask would be and also how much time he spends on their PK because right now they are the worst in the league.

 

[Fjordy]

I'm seen posts on the main boards about a Vancouver Canucks teardown. I didn't want to try to deal with the braying jackasses there -- Rags trying to get EP for Kakko and a fart. So I thought I'd run this by you guys first.

He's got a big contract -- $6m thru 23-24. I know this. But he's having a bit of a renaissance this year (so I hear). No one's mistaking him for a Norris trophy winner, but he could help stabilize the right side of our defense for a couple of years (while Jiricek or Nemec develops). He might consider waiving his NTC to relive his Calder trophy experience except this time with a talented, building team.

Some 'nucks fans sound like they're ready to throw in the towel. They desperately need cap relief. They also have Mike DiPietro in the AHL who could help us immediately in goal.

I don't typically go for cavoli riscaldati, but should the Sabres make an offer? Pysyk seems to be working out ok for us. Maybe Miller retained, Dell . . . + . . . ?

Thoughts?

Not sure if we need it. Maybe we could get DiPietro in a simpler deal?

And you need to consider that for sure Dahlin or Bryson probably will play RD next season, plus Joki and the same Pysyk.

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Bryson - Joki
Power - Pysyk

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Not sure if we need it. Maybe we could get DiPietro in a simpler deal?

And you need to consider that for sure Dahlin or Bryson probably will play RD next season, plus Joki and the same Pysyk.

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Bryson - Joki
Power - Pysyk

I think this deal would be in lieu if signing Pysyk. So it depends what the deal looks like -- is Buffalo getting an asset to take on the rest of the Myers contract? What's the delta in value between Myers and Pysyk?

 

[Fjordy]

I think this deal would be in lieu if signing Pysyk. So it depends what the deal looks like -- is Buffalo getting an asset to take on the rest of the Myers contract? What's the delta in value between Myers and Pysyk?

The question is if Myers is a good mentor for young players, if not then I wouldn't risk developing our best prospects.

 

[Hoglander]

Myers has been stabilized by OEL. He's still the same player that makes bad defensive reads. He's an offensive dman whose offense has fallen off. Please take him.

 

[Diaspora]

Hockey Reference

Looks like he's on ice for a lot of PK goals against, if I'm reading it right. Also seems like PK save pctg is very low (75.5%).

 

[Fjordy]

Myers has been stabilized by OEL. He's still the same player that makes bad defensive reads. He's an offensive dman whose offense has fallen off. Please take him.

No thx

 

[Sabre the Win]

No thanks to Myers, I can think of better ways to spend the money; also did this need its own thread or is this the new roster speculation thread?

 

[member 334057]

Hockey Reference

Looks like he's on ice for a lot of PK goals against, if I'm reading it right. Also seems like PK save pctg is very low (75.5%).

That's not a very good sign then. I do think they need another solid vet beyond Pysyk next year, as having 1 D over the age of 24 just doesn't seem like a good way to develop them all.

 

[Diaspora]

RD UFA this year seems to be slim pickings. If Granato can make Tage a center, then maybe a left-handed RD can be pulled from one of Dahlin/Bryson (I know Dahlin played the right side in Sweden - can't say I trust it in the NHL, tho. Hasn't the poor lad been through enough? Let him stabilize.).

 

[Diaspora]

No thanks to Myers, I can think of better ways to spend the money; also did this need its own thread or is this the new roster speculation thread?

Didn't think it belonged there.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Didn't think it belonged there.

Thats exactly what the roster speculation thread is for, hypothetical proposals.. roster construction etc.

 

[Diaspora]

Thats exactly what the roster speculation thread is for, hypothetical proposals.. roster construction etc.

Noted. Thanks.

 

[Uberpecker]

Given how useful Pysyk has been, I don't even dislike our current d-corps that much, especially once Joki comes back.

Miller has his flaws, but he also has chemistry with Bryson. Hägg - Pysyk have been our best pair defensively at times and Dahlin - Jokiharju have looked like a sensible enough top-pair in the past.

So with everyone healthy we already have three reasonably balanced and functional pairings and plenty of re-inforcements in the system.

I'd rather get Borgen back than Myers.

 

[sufferer]

Maybe if Myers were a stay-at-home shutdown type, which should be the case given his size and relative good skating ability, but

Myers has been stabilized by OEL. He's still the same player that makes bad defensive reads. He's an offensive dman whose offense has fallen off. Please take him.

says it all. We don't need another doofus back there.

 

[Chainshot]

Maybe if Myers were a stay-at-home shutdown type, which should be the case given his size and relative good skating ability, but

says it all. We don't need another doofus back there.

He used to be excellent on the PK but he seems anything but in Vancouver. He's Hal Gill to OEL's late-stage Ray Bourque at this point.

I'm more interested in seeing if Pysyk is affordable going forward and if they can work some of their own people into the lineup rather than going outside and picking up someone on that sized salary who isn't particularly good at anything at the moment.

 

[Diaspora]

Opened up this question on the roster speculation thread.

 

[Djp]

Do not want….

 

[Buffaloed]

No thanks, I don't want to hear references to the Twin Towers when Myers and Power are on the ice.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

I am confused. Do we have prospects Jiricek and Nemec?

 

[Fjordy]

I am confused. Do we have prospects Jiricek and Nemec?

Hypothetically.

 

[Jacob582]

Boychuk is a UFA next season. We need to replace him somehow.

 

[Fjordy]

Boychuk is a UFA next season. We need to replace him somehow.

Re-sign Boychuk 6M x 1Y.

 

[Chainshot]

No thanks, I don't want to hear references to the Twin Towers when Myers and Power are on the ice.

I notice that I still harbor ill-will toward Oleksiak just because in his draft year it was all about having multiple tall guys. Nothing about him, just was so irritated by the commentary.