Blue Bullet said:
What if I told you that a Finnish player had one assist in his draft year in 21 games. Not exactly a breakout year. But he went 6th overall so Tukonen should definitely go higher (your logic not mine). If you didn't figure it out I'm talking about Mikko Koivu who went ahead of Ruutu in the same draft year.
I did not say the only thing that determines how high someone should go is their points production. There are of course other factors that are more important. One would be potential, obviously. I mentioned Ruutu because I think he was a high class player with great potential(better than Tukonen) and some proven talent(better than Tukonen) and he went 9th, which is a lot lower than some people here are predicting Tukonen to go. While it is obviously a different year now with some very different players, I still think Tukonen should not go
that much higher. IMO, people have started to overrate Tukonen lately. I personally think his progress has been slowing down for a while now.
Koivu, by the way, went as high as he did partly because he's a Koivu.
Blue Bullet said:
You said in an average year he would go 7-10. Not true. In a good draft year like 2001 he would go in that range. In a great draft year like 2003 he may have still cracked the top 10. In average to below average years like 2000 and 2002 which both had very strong top 4's but little depth I think he would have went 5th overall.
Like I said in my last post, what I was trying to say was that
I don't think he
should go higher than that. In other words, my personal opinion is that if you think he should go 5th in an average year, you are overrating him. He's not a good enough prospect
IMO to go that high. I would not take him that high if I was making the decicions, because I don't think he's going to have as good a career as a 5th overall selection is expected to have
on average. Clear enough?
Blue Bullet said:
Looking back on it Ruutu should have been picked 3rd overall and that he will likely be a better player than Tukonen..
I think we can agree on that. How does the saying go again, hindsight is always 20/20..? In 2001, they thought he was the 9th best player..
Prucha73 said:
Who played against men for the last 3 years?
Yeah I mean Tukonen