Marc the Habs Fan
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If Rielly is so good, why is his WHL team 4 games under .500?
*awaits flood of Leafs fans*
But I think it's a worthy question.
*awaits flood of Leafs fans*
But I think it's a worthy question.
I don't like the snarking at Rielly. The kid is fantastic. Had we picked him, you guys would all be in agreement as to where he is placed.
I don't like the snarking at Rielly. The kid is fantastic. Had we picked him, you guys would all be in agreement as to where he is placed.
If Rielly is so good, why is his WHL team 4 games under .500?
*awaits flood of Leafs fans*
But I think it's a worthy question.
It's hard to tell, but yet everyone wants Galchenyuk ahead of Rielly. Rielly is a very good hockey player, people better get used to that now because the habs will have to face him 6 times a year for a while.
Nobody is saying he's not a good player, in fact i'm sure most people here know that he's a very good player. Galchenyuk is also a very good player, there's nothing wrong in thinking he deserves to be ranked in front of Rielly.
Crosby put up 100 points in his first nhl season and the Pens still finished in the basement. Great players can still play on crap teams.
It's not just people think he should be ahead, but they think that it is unfathomable that he is ahead. I really do think the argument can go either way and that it is not such an absurd idea that Rielly is "two spots" higher than Galchenyuk.
Johnny Gaudreau....that's a hell of a steal by a team desperately trying to have some depth, so it's about time Calgary. But that's a player that despite the size will become a significant player in the NHL. And Rielly at 4? That's high but he clearly deserves it. Awesome pick by the Leafs, which makes me think that if the Leafs would have had our pick and go with Gally, I did mention in the past that people should not panic over the fact that we might have gone with a d-man....and here's the reason why.
I see what you mean, and yes, Rielly is a great prospect - but from a Habs point of view, we really needed offensive forward prospects. Look at Hamilton; there isn't anybody able to bury a puck. Leblanc is coming back from injury and not looking very good right now, Palushaj is out but wasn't looking great, either, despite leading the team in goals. If you eliminate Galy in favor of Rielly, for example, our forward depth past Colburg is pretty lame.
Gallagher hasn't done much at the AHL level - Kristto remains a question mark, etc.
Last season I suggested that I was in favour of Rielly because I had seen him play prior to the injury and was enamoured with him. ***DISCLAIMER*** I am not saying I am disappointed we drafted Galchenyuk, both were equal in my mind last season and it was purely a personal preference.
Since then, I have gone to see Rielly 3 times this season and I have been pretty disappointed by him. I had tickets to both the Vancouver and Victoria Super series games. Rielly was decent in the Vancouver one and considering it was a 1-0 game decent was all he had to be. However, in the Victoria game he was putrid. He and Dumba were the 2 worst players on the ice in my opinion and during beers after the game my friends and agreed that it was a poor showing by team WHL and those two in particular. Rielly did have one amazing end to end rush in the Victoria game that would have brought the roof down, but he missed high and wide on his shot. (If you're going to deke 3 Russians at least get your shot on net)
I wanted to get another look at Rielly, so when Moose Jaw played in Victoria, I got tickets with a few friends and hoped for a good game from him. He was... enigmatic to say the least. He was the D man trailing on at least 3 odd man rushes going against Moose Jaw, and if it weren't for a pretty bad collapse in the 3rd period by the Royals he would have been quite the goat along with #3 Edmundson. He did have 2 assists in the 4-3 shootout win for Moose Jaw but looked pretty bad for a large part of the game. In the 3rd I think the shots were 16-4 (something like that) for Moose Jaw and he had a large part to do with that.
Now, relating that to our Galchenyuk, I've had the chance to watch (via stream) a few of the Sarnia games. "WOW" is how I would put it most nights. Galchenyuk is, usually, better than everyone else on the ice and he has really made me glad that Timmins and I did not share opinions on draft day.
TLDR: Personal preference was previously Rielly, now pretty clearly Galchenyuk.
Last season I suggested that I was in favour of Rielly because I had seen him play prior to the injury and was enamoured with him. ***DISCLAIMER*** I am not saying I am disappointed we drafted Galchenyuk, both were equal in my mind last season and it was purely a personal preference.
Since then, I have gone to see Rielly 3 times this season and I have been pretty disappointed by him. I had tickets to both the Vancouver and Victoria Super series games. Rielly was decent in the Vancouver one and considering it was a 1-0 game decent was all he had to be. However, in the Victoria game he was putrid. He and Dumba were the 2 worst players on the ice in my opinion and during beers after the game my friends and agreed that it was a poor showing by team WHL and those two in particular. Rielly did have one amazing end to end rush in the Victoria game that would have brought the roof down, but he missed high and wide on his shot. (If you're going to deke 3 Russians at least get your shot on net)
I wanted to get another look at Rielly, so when Moose Jaw played in Victoria, I got tickets with a few friends and hoped for a good game from him. He was... enigmatic to say the least. He was the D man trailing on at least 3 odd man rushes going against Moose Jaw, and if it weren't for a pretty bad collapse in the 3rd period by the Royals he would have been quite the goat along with #3 Edmundson. He did have 2 assists in the 4-3 shootout win for Moose Jaw but looked pretty bad for a large part of the game. In the 3rd I think the shots were 16-4 (something like that) for Moose Jaw and he had a large part to do with that.
Now, relating that to our Galchenyuk, I've had the chance to watch (via stream) a few of the Sarnia games. "WOW" is how I would put it most nights. Galchenyuk is, usually, better than everyone else on the ice and he has really made me glad that Timmins and I did not share opinions on draft day.
TLDR: Personal preference was previously Rielly, now pretty clearly Galchenyuk.
''Montreal'' can be clearer than me about how Schultz became an Oiler as UFA at 22yrs young (when he was drafted by Anaheim), but basically when a player plays 1 year in the USHL after his draft before going to NCAA, he can opt out after his 3rd NCAA year and become UFA. Kristo could have done it this summer, but didn't and now he is either a habs or nothing (unless habs release his rights, which won't happen). Bennett could become UFA if he opts out after this year.
Anaheim lost him for nothing. Gotta hope they close this loophole next CBA.
Thank-you very much for info
Something smells a bit fishy and unfair for Anaheim...glad most of us here are not Anaheim fans or else...wouldn't want this to happen to our Habs... although I am happy for Edmonton...I am not happy for Anaheim...something didn't seem fair about how Schultz became an Oiler on July 1st. This better not happen to our Kristo or our Bennett...
Thank-you very much for info
Something smells a bit fishy and unfair for Anaheim...glad most of us here are not Anaheim fans or else...wouldn't want this to happen to our Habs... although I am happy for Edmonton...I am not happy for Anaheim...something didn't seem fair about how Schultz became an Oiler on July 1st. This better not happen to our Kristo or our Bennett...
Personally I dont really care about Reilly, I think the Leafs and Habs biggest need was up front and we got the guy both teams wanted (even if this is not Burke has been saying lol) And why Reilly when we have guys like Subban Bennett Beaulieu who can rush the puck end to end?
Reilly is the best pick Toronto could do at 5th overall, so we have to give them credit for picking the right guy but Im certainly not dump enough to believe the Leafs would have drafted Reilly over Galchenyuk
Too lazy to look up the reason why, but it can't happen with Kristo and I'm 99% sure it can't happen with Bennett either. Their loopholes are closed.
I can't feel too bad for Anaheim, as they profited greatly on Pronger stabbing us in the back. But yeah, that loophole really should be taken care of.
It's not just people think he should be ahead, but they think that it is unfathomable that he is ahead. I really do think the argument can go either way and that it is not such an absurd idea that Rielly is "two spots" higher than Galchenyuk.
Whatever, didn't you guys get Jordan Eberle out of the Pronger trade?