Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part VII

[spiny norman]

Please continue.

Previous thread: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2144063

Click to read more...

 

[Gabe Kupari]

8 threads of pure speculation with very little to no facts. Impressive

 

[Coach Parker]

I don't feel bad for him or anger. Bruins fans have had this happen twice to our top ten picks. First Kessel then Hamilton.

Both were RFAs and wanted out. Both were traded for picks. I get the want of Chevy to draw this out and get the best but twice in a row were watched the return be picks or prospects.

Maybe this time a team will be different and give 1 for 1 but going on our two recent experiences and EVERYTHING Chiarelli was saying about the Kessel return he was demanding, he ended up taking what he could get...picks.

Fast forward, Sweeney was worried about an offer sheet and his RFA RHD defenseman who didn't want to be with that franchise anymore and wasn't going to sign any deal. He moved the player for picks right away and now those picks are looking very solid while Hamilton has been underwhelming.

Again, four quarters for a dollar.

The Bruins won the Kessel trade and TBD on the Hamilton one. Jets fans shouldn't be at all disappointed if the return isn't a 1 for 1 because in our two experiences the trades for picks actually really worked out well for the Bruins.

 

[SCP Guy]

I've said I would be okay with a very good LHD prospect and a 1st (many jets fans would not be).... But I only make that deal after Dec 1st....

 

[Hunter368]

I've said I would be okay with a very good LHD prospect and a 1st (many jets fans would not be).... But I only make that deal after Dec 1st....

I would have no problem with that return either assuming the LHD prospect was a blue chipper.

I'm curious though, why only after Dec 1st?

 

[WesMcCauley]

I would have no problem with that return either assuming the LHD prospect was a blue chipper.

I'm curious though, why only after Dec 1st?

Probably because he cant play this season if he isnt signed by Dec 1st

 

[Gordoff]

I've said I would be okay with a very good LHD prospect and a 1st (many jets fans would not be).... But I only make that deal after Dec 1st....

I thought that I read that if they don't trade/or come to an agreement by Dec 1st that he can't play or be traded until after the season is up?

 

[Flair Hay]

I don't feel bad for him or anger. Bruins fans have had this happen twice to our top ten picks. First Kessel then Hamilton.

Both were RFAs and wanted out. Both were traded for picks. I get the want of Chevy to draw this out and get the best but twice in a row were watched the return be picks or prospects.

Maybe this time a team will be different and give 1 for 1 but going on our two recent experiences and EVERYTHING Chiarelli was saying about the Kessel return he was demanding, he ended up taking what he could get...picks.

Fast forward, Sweeney was worried about an offer sheet and his RFA RHD defenseman who didn't want to be with that franchise anymore and wasn't going to sign any deal. He moved the player for picks right away and now those picks are looking very solid while Hamilton has been underwhelming.

Again, four quarters for a dollar.

The Bruins won the Kessel trade and TBD on the Hamilton one. Jets fans shouldn't be at all disappointed if the return isn't a 1 for 1 because in our two experiences the trades for picks actually really worked out well for the Bruins.

Good points.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

*Whispers* Hamilton being called underwhelming is laughable

 

[Hunter368]

Probably because he cant play this season if he isnt signed by Dec 1st

I'm kinda thinking same, but I wouldn't go that far that's just petty. If we get an acceptable trade before dec 1st do it, if not fine sitting him is an option & has value itself.......but I wouldn't do it just out of spite.

 

[snopro31]

Let him sit. Eventually he will get tired of losing money and either become and adult or start working at a sporting goods store.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

I thought that I read that if they don't trade/or come to an agreement by Dec 1st that he can't play or be traded until after the season is up?

If he doesn't sign by December 1st he can't play in the NHL this season. We can trade his rights or sign him to a contract at any time.

 

[CorgisPer60]

8 threads of pure speculation with very little to no facts. Impressive

It's what we do here. I am also fine with a good LHD prospect and a 1st for Trouba if he truly doesn't sign here. I would take a good RHD prospect too, as we now have no good RHD prospects with top 4 projections that are under 25 years old. Man, our blueline is a mess right now.

 

[Andreas Ferrari]

I would take a veteran RD and a D-prospect/or high 1st.

I don't want him to come back.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

I would take a veteran RD and a D-prospect/or high 1st.

I don't want him to come back.

I thought you guys wanted LHD?

Enstrom - Byfuglien
LHD - Myers
(third pairing)

...instead of...

Enstrom - Byfuglien
Morrissey - Myers
Stuart/Chiarot - RHD

 

[CorgisPer60]

The idea was to get a LD of equivalent talent to Trouba back in a trade, but depth D with a top 4 projection is our primary need as far as prospects are concerned. Trouba was going to be our 1RD of the future, but that's a bit muddled right now. We don't have anything outside of Morrissey for top 4 D under 25. It's pretty bad.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

I've said I would be okay with a very good LHD prospect and a 1st (many jets fans would not be).... But I only make that deal after Dec 1st....

Yea same here. Also other teams know the Jets aren't in a position to win the trade so you can't be greedy with it.

 

[BLONG7]

This is a little Drouin part deux.............the kid needs to sign a deal, and earn his stripes...the inmates don't run the asylum. The kids agent needs a kick in the butt.

Looks like GM's are sending a message to the young guys...good on Chevy!

 

[MardyBum]

I thought you guys wanted LHD?

Enstrom - Byfuglien
LHD - Myers
(third pairing)

...instead of...

Enstrom - Byfuglien
Morrissey - Myers
Stuart/Chiarot - RHD

Morrissey has done nothing to show he doesn't belong in the top 4. He's been paired with Buff and has been our most consistent D.

Morrissey/Enstrom - Buff
Enstrom/Morrissey - Myers
------- - --------

I'd personally be happy with a couple good D prospects or a really good D prospect and a 1st or something. I've been saying for awhile I doubt we get a LHD equivalent, so i'd rather get a younger guy with a high ceiling who can grow with our 23 and under core.

 

[Richiebottles]

This is a little Drouin part deux.............the kid needs to sign a deal, and earn his stripes...the inmates don't run the asylum. The kids agent needs a kick in the butt.

Looks like GM's are sending a message to the young guys...good on Chevy!

Not exactly, Drouin wasn't happy about his role and playing time not salary.

If it's in the CBA then what Trouba is doing in permissible. It's not always the team that wins in this situation.

 

[Rangers ftw]

Jets fans; who do you blame for this situation, Trouba or the organization?

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I don't feel bad for him or anger. Bruins fans have had this happen twice to our top ten picks. First Kessel then Hamilton.

Both were RFAs and wanted out. Both were traded for picks. I get the want of Chevy to draw this out and get the best but twice in a row were watched the return be picks or prospects.

Maybe this time a team will be different and give 1 for 1 but going on our two recent experiences and EVERYTHING Chiarelli was saying about the Kessel return he was demanding, he ended up taking what he could get...picks.

Fast forward, Sweeney was worried about an offer sheet and his RFA RHD defenseman who didn't want to be with that franchise anymore and wasn't going to sign any deal. He moved the player for picks right away and now those picks are looking very solid while Hamilton has been underwhelming.

Again, four quarters for a dollar.

The Bruins won the Kessel trade and TBD on the Hamilton one. Jets fans shouldn't be at all disappointed if the return isn't a 1 for 1 because in our two experiences the trades for picks actually really worked out well for the Bruins.

I'm sorry but what have the Hamilton picks done? Also Hamilton has been our best D this year so far behind Engelland (Yes it's alarming). Hamilton has done well for the Flames and will continue to improve.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Yea same here. Also other teams know the Jets aren't in a position to win the trade so you can't be greedy with it.

They aren't? They've got a player who wants a trade so they should take whatever they can get because they're stuck. That's the logic here, right?

Guys like Friedman and McKenzie are suggesting that Chevy's not taking calls and was recently quoted as saying he looks forward to seeing Trouba walk into the dressing room. Or maybe that was Maurice now that I think of it. Either way, I think what everybody should be reading into the situation based on available facts is that the Jets believe they can eventually convince Trouba to play for the organization, and are willing to wait as long as it takes. That said, there probably is such a thing as an offer too good to be refused. If Chevy received such an offer, I'm sure he'd take it.

If Chevy says to Trouba "I'm not trading you. Not this year, not next year, not the year after. Sign this contract or retire," what's Trouba going to do?

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Jets fans; who do you blame for this situation, Trouba or the organization?

I blame you

 

[Hunter368]

Jets fans; who do you blame for this situation, Trouba or the organization?

Is that a real question?

Jets have given this kid everything and more that any young kid could dream of, have a standing offer/contract at 6x5.5 waiting for him.......of course this is all on Trouba, anyone suggesting otherwise doesn't know all the facts.