Trotz's shade on Shattenkirk "I think everybody thought of him as a 1-2, and he really wasn't."

[Filthy Dangles]

Barry not being very subtle



Shattenkirk responds




Thoughts?

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[Jersey Fresh]

Nice to see Shattenkirk agrees with him.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

List of Barry Trotz's teams to make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs:

 

[Beautvillier]

he didnt really live up to expectations for washington

 

[SB84]

He handled it well and said the right thing. Don't think Trotz meant it in a malicious way but there was no need to throw shade at Shatty in the first place. Hope he scores a few on the Caps now

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Trotz said the truth. Shattenkirk wasn't a top pairing D for the Caps. He might be for the Rangers, but he wasn't for us. I think the trade could've worked out better under other circumstances, Shattenkirk didn't have enough time to adapt IMO. I don't regret the trade, our GM did exactly what he had to considering the strength of our roster.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Shattenkirk has always been self-aware about his abilities, he just wanted a greater opportunity. He'll be a coach someday, no doubt about that. He understands the game at a high level.

Trotz saw Shattenkirk for over 3 seasons while he was in Nashville and Shatty was in St. Louis. He shouldn't have been surprised.

 

[Note Worthy]

I agree with Trotz. Shatty is great on PP but he was a defensive disaster in the playoffs for STL.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think the problem here is that Shattenkirk was never a top pair D. Trotz just sounds bitter here.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

he didnt really live up to expectations for washington

I think he fits better in the West- he's a little bit quicker than them vs the guys in the East (who tend to be faster teams)

 

[pheasant]

Well Shattenkirk wasn't on the top pairing when he played under Trotz in Washington. So this isn't a surprise, I guess.

I think Trotz has to say that. His team loaded up for a Cup by bringing in Shattenkirk, and then didn't win. The coach can't say "he was just what we expected" because they expected a championship.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Trotz just needs to get Brooks Orpik out there as much as possible, so adding someone else made him mad.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

I think the problem here is that Shattenkirk was never a top pair D. Trotz just sounds bitter here.

I don't think he's bitter, he's just reflecting on Shattenkirk's time in DC. The guy came in advertised as a #1 or #2D and he wasn't for us. That's the truth.

 

[McGenerational]

Barry not being very subtle



Shattenkirk responds




Thoughts?

I agree with Trotz and I think Shatty was pretty mature about it.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

remember this RMNB article

Kevin Shattenkirk is a top-pairing defenseman

 

[SenzZen]

I think the problem here is that Shattenkirk was never a top pair D. Trotz just sounds bitter here.

I'd say the problem is you projecting bitterness on Trotz.

Because all he said was the same thing you did.

 

[izzy]

hes not and never was

hes a good second pairing dman with elite powerplay skills

 

[txpd]

I don't think he's bitter, he's just reflecting on Shattenkirk's time in DC. The guy came in advertised as a #1 or #2D and he wasn't for us. That's the truth.

Truth. He came in as a 1 that was playing 5 because of the guys ahead of him. He delivered a pretty unspectacular 4/5 level performance where one play might have changed things for the Caps. He was a bust.

 

[SI90]

Shattenkirk came across very good and handled the questions well.

 

[izzy]

remember this RMNB article

Kevin Shattenkirk is a top-pairing defenseman

okay assuming you agree with this and arent posting this as a shot at advanced stats...

this is because shattenkirk was HEAVILY sheltered in st.louis by petro and even by a rookie parayko.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Truth. He came in as a 1 that was playing 5 because of the guys ahead of him. He delivered a pretty unspectacular 4/5 level performance where one play might have changed things for the Caps. He was a bust.

If he played as well as he's playing right now for the Rangers, maybe the Caps get past the Penguins and win the Cup. I'd rather not think about it.

 

[Machinehead]

Ok, Barry. But Orpik is, right?

I don't understand why everyone is always on the attack with Shattenkirk. He such a nice kid and a passionate player.

So he's not perfect defensively, who cares? He scores and drives possession at an elite level.

And a lot of other guys around the league get away with making the same mistakes Shattenkirk does based on reputation.

 

[Machinehead]

Nice to see Shattenkirk agrees with him.

I see you just chose not the read the "prove people WRONG" part.

 

[Cloned]

This is considered shade?

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I see you just chose not the read the "prove people WRONG" part.

Maybe work backwards and see if that has any affect on whether or not he is in agreement with what Trotz said or not.