Speculation: Trade Rumors & Roster Building Thread: Part XXIV "Ghouls, Goblins & Gorton"

[BBKers]

Going to bed now and figure the other thread will be done soon @ 1.000 posts. Peace out fellow NYR fans!!!

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2016-2017 (46)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD(24)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr|Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status|Team 2016 |Drafted/Acquired |Age 2016
1| F | Brandon Pirri |$1,100,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #59 Chicago Blackhawks (2009) - signed w/NYR as UFA |25
2| F | Jesper Fast(h) |$950.000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #157 NYR (2010) |25
3| D | Dylan McIlrath |$800,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #10 NYR (2010) |24
4| F | Oscar Lindberg^ |$650,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #57 PHX (2010) - acquired unsigned through trade|25
5| F | Josh Jooris |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - signed w/NYR as UFA |26
6| D | Adam Clendening |$600.000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #36 Chicago Blackhawks (2011) |24
7| F | J.T. Miller |$2.750.000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011) |23
8| F | Mika Zibanejad |$2,625,000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #6 Ottawa Senators (2011) - acquired through trade |23
9| F | Kevin Hayes |$2,600,000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #24 Chicago (2010)- signed w/NYR as UFA |24
10| D | Brady Skjei (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #28 NYR (2012) |22
11| F | Jimmy Vesey (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #66 Nashville (2012)- signed w/NYR as UFA |23
12| D | Kevin Klein |$2,900,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #37 Nashville Predators (2003) - acquired through trade|32
13| D | Nick Holden |$1,650,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |29
14| F | Michael Grabner |$1,600,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #14 Vancover Canucks (2006) - signed w/NYR as UFA |29
15| G | Anti Raanta |$1,000,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |27
16| F | Pavel Buchnevich (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #75 NYR (2013) |21
17| F | Rick Nash (NMC) |$7,800,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #1 overall Columbus Blue Jackets (2002) - acquired through trade|32
18| D | Ryan McDonagh |$4,700,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 Montreal (2007) - acquired unsigned through trade|27
19| F | Mats Zuccarello (NTC) |$4,500,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |29
20| D | Dan Girardi (NMC => NTC)|$5,500,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |32
21| F | Chris Kreider |$4,625,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |25
22| G | Henrik Lundqvist (NMC)|$8,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #208 NYR (2000) |34
23| F | Derek Stepan (NMC => NTC)|$6,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #51 NYR (2008) |26
24| D | Marc Staal (NMC => NTC)|$5,750,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 NYR (2005) |29[/table]

TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $73,000,000
CAP PAYROLL: $70,950,000
CAP PENALTY (for stashing T. Glass in minors): $500,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster - 14 FWDs, 8 D, 2 G): $2,025,000
LTIR: $650,000 (injured players salary - Lindberg - can be deducted once season starts)
^ - injured, operated on in offseason and placed on LTIR until November

AVERAGE AGE ~ 26.1 years

CONTRACTED BUT ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL/ELSEWHERE (22)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status |Team 2016 |Drafted |Age 2016
25|F |Tanner Glass |$1,450,000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #265 Florida Panthers (2003) - signed w/NYR as UFA |32
26|D |Chris Summers |$600.000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #29 Phoenix Coyotes (2006) |28
27|D |Matt Bodie |$600.000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |26
28|F |Justin Fontaine |$600.000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |29
29|D |Tommy Hughes |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |24
30|F |Adam Chapie (ELC) |$800.000* |RFA 2017 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25
31|D |Troy Donnay (ELC) |$716,667* |RFA 2017 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
32|G |MacKenzie Skapski (ELC)|$661,667* |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R6 #170 NYR (2013) |22
33|D |Calle Andersson (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #119 NYR (2012) |22
34|G |Magnus Hellberg |$625,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #38 Nashville (2011) |25
35|F |Marek Hrivik |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25
36|F |Niklas Jensen |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #29 Vancouver (2011) |23
37|D |Michael Paliotta |$600.000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #61 Chicago Blackhawks (2011) |23
38|F |Chris Brown |$575,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #36 Arizona (2009) |25
39|F |Adam Tambellini (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #65 NYR (2013) |22
40|F |Cristoval Nieves(ELC) |$755.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |22
41|F |Steven Fogarty (ELC) |$750.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #72 NYR (2011) |23
42|F |Malte Strömwall (ELC) |$742.500* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #7198 Calgary(started w NYR) |23
43|D |John Gilmour(ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |22
44|D |Ryan Graves (ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #110 NYR (2013) |21
45|LW |Robin Kovacs (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #62 NYR (2015) |20
46|G |Brandon Halvorsen (ELC)|$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |R2 #59 NYR (2014) |20
(47)|F |Ryan Gropp (ELC-S)¤ |$839.166* |RFA 2020 |Seattle Thunderbirds/WHL |R2 #41 NYR (2015) |20
(48)|D |Sergey Zborovskiy (ELC-S)¤|$734,166 |RFA 2020 |Regina Pats/WHL |R3 #79 NYR (2015) |19
(49)|RW |Michael Joly @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |21
(50)|LW/D|Ahti Oksanen @ |$??? |AHL deal |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted |23
(51)|LW |Matt Carey @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |24
(52)|C |Philip McRae @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #33 St Louis Blues (2008) |26
(53)|D |Spiro Goulakos @ |$?? |AHL deal |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted |26
(54)|G |Jeff Malcom @ |$?? |AHL deal |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted |27[/table]

* - has additional bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
¤ - contract can slide if he remains in juniors (Zborovskiy)
@ - signed to an AHL deal with Hartford Wolfpack

PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT WITH RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (11)
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Team 2016| Height |Weight| Nationality |Shoots|DOB|Drafted
1|G |Igor Shesterkin |St. Petersburg SKA (KHL) |6' 1"| 187 | Russia |L|December 30, 1995 |R4 #118 NYR (2014)
2|D |Tyler Nanne ¤ |Ohio State/NCAA (did not play) |5' 10"|175 | USA |R|March 17, 1996 |R5 #142 NYR (2014)
3|C |Brad Morrison |Prince George/WHL |6' 0"| 160 | Canada |L|January 4, 1997 |R4 #113 NYR (2015)
4|RW |Daniel Bernhardt |London Knights/OHL |6' 3"| 191 | Sweden |L|April 11, 1996 |R4 #119 NYR (2015)
5|G |Adam Huska |Green Bay Gamblers/USHL |6' 3" |191 | Slovakia |L|May 12, 1997 |R7 #184 NYR (2015)
6|D |Sean Day |Mississauga Steelheads/OHL |6' 2" |229 | Belgium/Canada|L|January 9, 1998 |R3 #81 NYR (2016)
7|D |Tarmo Reunanen |TPS U20 (Finland) |6' 0" |180 | Finland |L|March 1, 1998 |R4 #98 NYR (2016)
8|LW/RW |Timothy Gettinger |Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds/OHL|6' 5" |201 | USA |R|April 14, 1998 |R5 #141 NYR (2016)
9|c |Gabriel Fontaine |Rouyn-Noranda Huskies/QMJHL |6' 1" |187 | Canada |L|April 30, 1997 |R6 #171 NYR (2016)
10|G |Tyler Wall |Leamington Flyers/GOJHL |6' 2" |190 | Canada |R|January 14, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2016)
11|C |Ty Ronning |Vancouver Giants/WHL |5' 9" |165 | Canada |R|October 20, 1997 |R7 #201 NYR (2016)
(12)|F |Klingberg, Carl |Free agent - rights retained |6' 3" |205 | Sweden |R|January 28, 1991 |R2 #34 Atlanta (2009)[/table]

¤ - injured

2017 DRAFT PICKS (6)

• 1st round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round Florida
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round VAN
• 7th round NYR

• We lost our 2nd round pick to Carolina in the trade for Eric Staal
• We lost our 4th round pick to Colorado in the trade for Nick Holden
• We gained a 4th round pick from Arizona for Keith Yandle - condition was met when he signed a 7 year deal there
• We lost our 6th round pick to Nashville in the trade for Magnus Hellberg
• We gained a 6th round pick from Vancouver when we traded Emerson Etem

2018 DRAFT PICKS (7)

• 1st round NYR
• 2nd round Ottawa
• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round NYR
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round NYR

• We gained a 2nd round pick from Ottawa when we traded Derrick Brassard
• We then also lost our 7th round pick to Ottawa in the trade for Mika Zibanejad

Click to read more...

 

[BBKers]

TRADES BEFORE DECEMBER 1

• JT Miller, B Halverson for Cam Fowler
• Cam Fowler, Dylan McIllraith + 2018 2nd for J Trouba, a trash contract to stash away and a 2017 6th
• J Fast + Marek Hrivik for Ville Pokka (Chicago)

Look at picking up some players for Hartford depth (we only have 45 SPCs) as well

ROSTER
Kreider - Zib - Buch
Vesey - Step - Zucc
Nash - Hayes - Pirri
Grabner - Lindberg - Jooris/Nieves

Jensen as the first callup

McD - Trouba
Skjei - Klein
Staal - Girardi/Clendening
Holden

Gilmour or Graves first callup

• Deal Nash & Klein at the deadline if the cards are right. Also possibly Zuc.
• Buyout Girardi next offseason if demise continues. Try to trade Staal as well.
• If Nash (and Klein) are dealt and there is amicable capspace available - look at signing Shattenkirk in the offseason if price is not outta the ballpark

Rebuild/retool is done.

We should have traded Tambellini and a conditional 3rd for Yakupov btw, Small price and risk for high ceiling

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If we wanted Pokka, why didn't we just claim him when he was on waivers?

 

[BBKers]

If we wanted Pokka, why didn't we just claim him when he was on waivers?

I knew he was sent down but not that he was waived. If so your point is very valid and I have no answer. And I apologize for being stupid...

EDIT
I found this link where it says Chicago "cut and sent down Pokka" but at the same time "waived and sent down Svedberg". Does that not imply that Pokka was not yet waiver eligible?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I knew he was sent down but not that he was waived. If so your point is very valid and I have no answer. And I apologize for being stupid...

EDIT
I found this link where it says Chicago "cut and sent down Pokka" but at the same time "waived and sent down Svedberg". Does that not imply that Pokka was not yet waiver eligible?

Never mind. My mistake.

PS: I would never call you stupid, BBK

 

[Irishguy42]

Pokka isn't waiver eligible until next season.

 

[Ori]

Villa Pokka was assigned to Rockford - interesting trade suggestions @BBKers.
Can we get him for picks from Hawks, thoughts?
He was obviously not NHL ready since Hawks decided to do that in their training camp.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Watching 1st period of Oil vs. Flames and BOTH of these teams should be knocking down Gorts's door trying to pry Klein away from us.

 

[failure]

Watching 1st period of Oil vs. Flames and BOTH of these teams should be knocking down Gorts's door trying to pry Klein away from us.

I feel bad for Cam.

 

[RangerBoy]

Carolina has depth on D. Jaccob Slavin was under consideration for the North American team for the World Cup. Left-handed D. The Canes have Slavin,Hanifan,Faulk,Pesce,Fleury,McKeown and Bean.

I read this about Carolina's evaluation of players

One of Tulsky’s most oft-cited findings during that era of publishing his research was that players reach peak offensive production at around age 24, debunking scout ratings from one team – he won’t disclose which, but says it wasn’t the Hurricanes – which most highly valued players at age 29.

The effects of that finding seem to be reflected in the Canes’ current roster makeup, as five of the team’s projected 2016-17 defensemen are 24 or younger and last year’s top scorer, Jeff Skinner, also turned 24 in May.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...canes-now/article106354777.html#storylink=cpy

JT Miller is 23.

Miller for Slavin for Trouba. Other players need to be moved in the deal to pay Trouba.

The Rangers acquire Trouba. Carolina gets a young forward who fits their age group. Winnipeg gets the LHD. I remember reading Ron Francis was looking at young forwards during the summer.

 

[egelband]

I wonder is Klein has any trade value. Would love to clear a slot for Dylan.

 

[hi]

Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Pirri - Hayes - Zuccarello
Miller - Stepan - Nash
Vesey - Jooris/Nieves - Grabner

McDonagh - Klein
Staal - Clendening
Skjei - McIlrath

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I wonder is Klein has any trade value. Would love to clear a slot for Dylan.

Solid 2nd pairing D-man with play-off experience at 2.9m has value.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

^^^ Agree. We shouldn't get rid of Klein if we're trying to make a run for the playoffs.





Girardi, on the other hand...

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Girardi, on the other hand...

I have been one of Girardi's biggest critics the last 2 years, but I am surprised about the way he is playing so far. The best thing Girardi can do now, is play in a way we don't notice him. Which he is doing. Staal on the other hand... My god, he is awful. His vision is definitely holding him back.

 

[bobbop]

Carolina has depth on D. Jaccob Slavin was under consideration for the North American team for the World Cup. Left-handed D. The Canes have Slavin,Hanifan,Faulk,Pesce,Fleury,McKeown and Bean.

I read this about Carolina's evaluation of players



Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...canes-now/article106354777.html#storylink=cpy

JT Miller is 23.

Miller for Slavin for Trouba. Other players need to be moved in the deal to pay Trouba.

The Rangers acquire Trouba. Carolina gets a young forward who fits their age group. Winnipeg gets the LHD. I remember reading Ron Francis was looking at young forwards during the summer.

RB, Love your brainstorming. I suspect that Gorton is right there with you. A young talented RHD is one piece that would really set this club up for the next few years. I suspect at the end of the day the Rangers salary cap room will be a huge benefit in trying to nail something down. I can't believe how many teams are under $750K available. We want Trouba!

 

[Leetch3]

I wonder is Klein has any trade value. Would love to clear a slot for Dylan.

klein is hurt and dylan still isn't playing. so not sure how trading klein changes anything

 

[bernmeister]

TRADES BEFORE DECEMBER 1

• JT Miller, B Halverson for Cam Fowler
• Cam Fowler, Dylan McIllraith + 2018 2nd for J Trouba, a trash contract to stash away and a 2017 6th
• J Fast + Marek Hrivik for Ville Pokka (Chicago)

Look at picking up some players for Hartford depth (we only have 45 SPCs) as well

ROSTER
Kreider - Zib - Buch
Vesey - Step - Zucc
Nash - Hayes - Pirri
Grabner - Lindberg - Jooris/Nieves

Jensen as the first callup

McD - Trouba
Skjei - Klein
Staal - Girardi/Clendening
Holden

Gilmour or Graves first callup

• Deal Nash & Klein at the deadline if the cards are right. Also possibly Zuc.
• Buyout Girardi next offseason if demise continues. Try to trade Staal as well.
• If Nash (and Klein) are dealt and there is amicable capspace available - look at signing Shattenkirk in the offseason if price is not outta the ballpark

Rebuild/retool is done.

We should have traded Tambellini and a conditional 3rd for Yakupov btw, Small price and risk for high ceiling

sorry BBK
big no there
Fowler sucks

Miller is an important cog
only moved if a package returning Hanifin

let Ana discount Fowler and let's come up with alternate for Trouba

 

[bernmeister]

Watching 1st period of Oil vs. Flames and BOTH of these teams should be knocking down Gorts's door trying to pry Klein away from us.

EDM 2018 1st and Yakimov
for
Klein, Lindberg, Fast

^^^ Agree. We shouldn't get rid of Klein if we're trying to make a run for the playoffs.

Girardi, on the other hand...

this win now philosophy is a killer
No
trade Klein while his value is high, get an expansion exempt future

 

[BBKers]

Carolina has depth on D. Jaccob Slavin was under consideration for the North American team for the World Cup. Left-handed D. The Canes have Slavin,Hanifan,Faulk,Pesce,Fleury,McKeown and Bean.

I read this about Carolina's evaluation of players



Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...canes-now/article106354777.html#storylink=cpy

JT Miller is 23.

Miller for Slavin for Trouba. Other players need to be moved in the deal to pay Trouba.

The Rangers acquire Trouba. Carolina gets a young forward who fits their age group. Winnipeg gets the LHD. I remember reading Ron Francis was looking at young forwards during the summer.

Great idea. Similar to mine with dealing in a rare three way with Anaheim - but better. Much better. There more or less has to be a third team involved if we are players for Trouba. I think a fat Axl Rosé waiting The words "all we need is just a little patience" (until the December 1 deadline Likely forces Winnipegs hand) is applicable here. Unless somehow Lindholm were to become available - but I Doubt it.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Would definitely do the trades RB proposed but Slavin wouldn't be a bad pickup in his own right. Big fan of his.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

sorry BBK
big no there
Fowler sucks

Miller is an important cog
only moved if a package returning Hanifin

let Ana discount Fowler and let's come up with alternate for Trouba

This just shows you stop reading the moment you see something that you disagree with.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

I wonder is Klein has any trade value. Would love to clear a slot for Dylan.

Yeah, let's trade our best RD to clear a spot for a guy that can't crack the lineup when Klein is injured. Makes sense.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Yeah, let's trade our best RD to clear a spot for a guy that can't crack the lineup when Klein is injured. Makes sense.

But... But... Tuffness!

 

[RangerBoy]

Great idea. Similar to mine with dealing in a rare three way with Anaheim - but better. Much better. There more or less has to be a third team involved if we are players for Trouba. I think a fat Axl Rosé waiting The words "all we need is just a little patience" (until the December 1 deadline Likely forces Winnipegs hand) is applicable here. Unless somehow Lindholm were to become available - but I Doubt it.

Carolina has young D. Miller fits their team building philosophy. Winnipeg wants an NHL LHD. Maybe Trouba agrees to a one year contract to get him into the lineup. Trouba is arbitration eligible next summer. The Rangers sign him to the long term contract extension in July. Miller has a $2.75M cap hit. The Rangers have $2M in cap space. Late November trade.