Rumor: Trade Rumors and Proposals | Kassian an Oiler

[Ogopogo*]

You also said Petry was barely an AHL player as well, sure would be nice to have him now.

Reinhart will be just fine, give it a little time.

Petry was crap, I am glad he is gone. The Canadiens will be buying him out before that deal ever reaches its end.

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[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Petry was crap, I am glad he is gone. The Canadiens will be buying him out before that deal ever reaches its end.

This is the most untruthful post I have ever seen on this board.

 

[McAsuno]

Can we actually move on from Petry already? Its like the running narrative of the whining with Rieder.

 

[Ogopogo*]

This is the most untruthful post I have ever seen on this board.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[Soundwave]

Sekera is basically just like Petry, maybe a tad better, maybe not, but we certainly weren't going to have both of these guys at 5.5 mill/per, and trading Petry probably directly to us winning McGolden Ticket.

So that worked out fairly nicely for us.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

WTF are you talking about?

The Habs are missing Petry a lot right now as be bad been very good for them. But for some reason you think he is garbage? Okay dude.

 

[Mr Positive]

Sekera is basically just like Petry, maybe a tad better, maybe not and we certainly weren't going to have both of these guys at 5.5 mill/per, and trading Petry probably directly to us winning McGolden Ticket.

So that worked out fairly nicely for us.

Sekera is already far better than Petry. Petry has size, but Sekera has brains. That is so much critical than size. He has a better shot and better passing ability too. He started rough, but I forgive that as an adjustment phase.

The only tragic thing with Petry is that we could have had him for around 4 million AAV probably, for a couple years yet. That would be useful, but after those few years I would want us to walk away from him in favour of better D. I know Habs fans like him but they are used to poor 2nd pairing guys.

 

[McAsuno]

The Habs are missing Petry a lot right now as be bad been very good for them. But for some reason you think he is garbage? Okay dude.

I say they're missing Price and Gallagher more. 1 win in their last 8 I think? Ouch.

 

[Ogopogo*]

The Habs are missing Petry a lot right now as be bad been very good for them. But for some reason you think he is garbage? Okay dude.

Haha...yes, missing Petry is the problem. Carey price is a pylon.

 

[Narnia]

I say they're missing Price and Gallagher more. 1 win in their last 8 I think? Ouch.

And today's game is the first game Petry missed.

 

[s7ark]

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I'm assuming you mean Backstrom, but even then they're going to be tight.

Parise- 7.538
Koivu- 6.75
Vanek- 6.5
Pominville- 5.6
Coyle- 3.2
Granlund- 3
Nino - 2.667
and Zucker's bound to get at least 2M

=37.225 for 8 forwards

Suter 7.538
Brodin 4.167
Scandella 4
Spurgeon 5.188
Dumba around 1.5-2?

=22.393 for 5 D

Dubnyk 4.333
Kuemper 1.3ish?

= 5.633

+500k buyout on Cooke

=65.751 with 7 roster spots to fill. Doable, but very very little flexibility.

They are talking about a $74 million salary cap projection for next season, it'll be a breeze to make that work. I just don't see Minny having enough important guys to re-sign to make things tight on them and its a good team that can contend for a cup so guys will often take less to make things work. Calgary is probably worse off than Minny at the moment I see them going long term on both of Monahan and Gaudreau probably cost them $12 million or more to do so, then add more top 6 scoring to replace Hudler and a new starting goalie, which are a lot more costly than bottom 6 guys which account for most of Minny's remaining roster spots.

I can't help but think Chiarelli has some kind of trade in the works that he's looking to pull the trigger on once we get healthier.

I don't know that he has something major at this point, otherwise he would've pulled the trigger. Healthy or not this team still needs help regardless and if there is a player out there that can round this team out I don't think you can afford to wait.

I disagree, if it's involving eberle and rnh them you absolutely have to wait for yak and mcdavid to get back. Being this tight to a playoff spot and and for example shipping rnh out before mcdavid comes back would be a disaster.

If it's for a top pairing d-man you can't afford to wait though. How many real good d-men ever get moved? McDavid or no McDavid we need a d-man to push everyone down. If that guy becomes available you real have no choice.

What GM is going to wait for him to be ready to make the trade though?

I have a hard time believing any GM ever has anything up his sleeve, because time and time again we've been proven wrong in that assumption.

It sure would be nice though...

I guess the one thing that could be up a sleeve is a bad contract for a bad contract deal.

I wonder what that makes the fans who want to deal RNH for a player who is far less proven and who doesn't help the team in the short term...

It's a catch-22. Chiarelli doesn't want to make a trade until we're healthy, but once we're healthy, he might be hesitant to make a deal because we'll look better.

I mean does anyone think the 2nd and 3rd period unfold the same way with McDavid, Yak, Klefbom, and Davidson all in the lineup last night?

Yeah, you'd just hope that the management has seen enough to realize, even when healthy, there is a ton of dead weight on this team that is being dragged up by the few bright spots.

I understand everyone can't be a gamechanger, but when we're paying RNH and Eberle 6 million to play on the third line, and they're playing the way they have been, it's not going to hurt us to shake things up a bit.

The way I see it, there is room for Yak or Eberle on this team, not both. Yak is my preference at the moment because he's not as soft as eberle, but if Eberle and Mcdavid are great together, you look at moving yak.

I have time for RNH as a third line center who can move up or play wing in the top 6 in case of injury, but he'd need some real third line wingers who can be physical and chip in with a few points.

I think when healthy we'll roll something like this for a few games.

Hall-Drai-Purcell
RNH-McDavid-Eberle
Pouliot-Lander-Yakupov
Hendricks-Letestu-Korpikoski

Nurse-Sekera
Klefbom-Fayne
Davidson-Schultz

After last night who is NOT sold on Byfuglien?
The man would be a perfect addition to the team.

"pay the man his money"!!

*that* man his money.

He's still pretty average in his own zone, but yeah I'd love to get Byfuglien. That's a Chiarelli player if there ever was one.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Pair Byfuglien with a solid defensive LD like Nurse or eventually Reinhart if you're worried about his defense. Or with Sekera or Klefbom if you want a really dynamic offensive pairing on the blueline.

Call me crazy but I'd rather add Byfuglien as a FA than deal RNH for Hamonic or Jones.

 

[s7ark]

Count me in with those hoping for Buff. He'd be a great addition.

 

[PinSeeker]

So to sum up the last 3 years as Oiler fans: we still need D badly?

Would take Buff but don't think he is the perfect solution.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

s7ark, you are a swift Mod!

 

[Bryanbryoil]

So to sum up the last 3 years as Oiler fans: we still need D badly?

Would take Buff but don't think he is the perfect solution.

Physical, Check
Big time RH point shot, Check
Can play on the PP, Check
Intimidating player that will stand up for teammates, Check

The only real downfalls are his age, whether his body holds out for the entirety of his contract and the price tag.

Klefbom-Byfuglien
Nurse-Sekera
Davidson-Reinhart

That's a solid looking D corps next season.

 

[s7ark]

s7ark, you are a swift Mod!

Didn't want to lose your post.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Pair Byfuglien with a solid defensive LD like Nurse or eventually Reinhart if you're worried about his defense. Or with Sekera or Klefbom if you want a really dynamic offensive pairing on the blueline.

Call me crazy but I'd rather add Byfuglien as a FA than deal RNH for Hamonic or Jones.

Well you always take the free agent if you can get him, then figure the rest out.

Based only on last night's game, though, they'd be crazy to let Buff walk. Ladd looked like a shadow of the player I remember.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Physical, Check
Big time RH point shot, Check
Can play on the PP, Check
Intimidating player that will stand up for teammates, Check

The only real downfalls are his age, whether his body holds out for the entirety of his contract and the price tag.

Klefbom-Byfuglien
Nurse-Sekera
Davidson-Reinhart

That's a solid looking D corps next season.

Id honestly want Nurse playing with Byfuglien. Buff can help Nurse be a heavier hitting d and they can become one of the most terrifying d pairings in the lead. ****, if they are on the ice with McDavid ****, I cant really think of many players with the balls to even hit McDavid with them on the ice lol

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

I wouldn't think twice about giving up our first this year for big buff.

We'd have extra time to negotiate, and the division is so tight he's just what we need to pull away without giving up what's making us so good.

 

[PinSeeker]

Physical, Check
Big time RH point shot, Check
Can play on the PP, Check
Intimidating player that will stand up for teammates, Check

The only real downfalls are his age, whether his body holds out for the entirety of his contract and the price tag.

Klefbom-Byfuglien
Nurse-Sekera
Davidson-Reinhart

That's a solid looking D corps next season.

I hear what you are saying, but his own zone play leaves a bit to be desired from what I have seen.

Still think we need to add another.

 

[Wheathead]

I think the lack of trades across the NHL this year is interesting. Lots of talk from GMs about how difficult deals are to make now-a-days... is this a sign of that?

As an aside, I think goaltending has suddenly come a position of strength with this team. Nilsson and Talbot have both been pretty good this year. Do we continue with them all season and make a deal in the summer and give Brossoit the back-up position, or do we roll with Nilsson-Talbot into next season, or even trade one at the deadline?

I think one of them could fetch us a decent defenseman.

 

[McOilers97]

I wouldn't think twice about giving up our first this year for big buff.

We'd have extra time to negotiate, and the division is so tight he's just what we need to pull away without giving up what's making us so good.

Since when are we "so good"?

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

I think the lack of trades across the NHL this year is interesting. Lots of talk from GMs about how difficult deals are to make now-a-days... is this a sign of that?

As an aside, I think goaltending has suddenly come a position of strength with this team. Nilsson and Talbot have both been pretty good this year. Do we continue with them all season and make a deal in the summer and give Brossoit the back-up position, or do we roll with Nilsson-Talbot into next season, or even trade one at the deadline?

I think one of them could fetch us a decent defenseman.

You hold on to all 3. At least still the off season. You have no idea who will become your starter, or if Talbot will even sign a new contract. We could move Nilsson for a player then Talbot walks and then we are literally screwed. Goalies are hard to get, keep your good ones.

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

Since when are we "so good"?

haha yeah the christmas spirit, as well as Mcdavid being close is getting me excited.

I should have said "So Okay"

I just meant we wouldn't have to get rid of our center depth or the few top 6 wingers we have.

We could have three dangerous scoring lines, a good fourth line, and a pretty solid D when everyones healthy if we got big buff.