Adam Michaels
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Friedman saying St. Louis are aggressive to get Chiarot. But they are not the only ones.
No...just fans lolPetry has value. His shit season does not turn GMs off.
I think Petry situation gets dealt with this summer personally.
Also wanted to ask you...after hearing Price at his press conference, still think other teams would show interest?
Remember I told a few weeks back, he's got chronic knee & hip issues. It's not exactly a secret.
If getting rid of Price and his contract is the wet dream everyone makes it out to be here, the most likely resolution will come via LTIR.
Petry has value. His shit season does not turn GMs off.
I tend to agree, players with term are more likely offseason trades...though I think if they get a substantial offer for Toffoli, they're going to move him.I personally am not sure what we do at the deadline. Chiarot and Kulak probably get moved. I'd be money on that. Others with term? That's very difficult to pull off at a deadline. Something might develop but that's circumstantial. Hard to guess.
See impossible...but I could see a deal where it's a combination of futures + Habs taking back a bad contract.With Petry? I agree. Low probability he gets moved this season. Possible but not probable. I think we might be stuck with a Voracek for Atkinson type trade. Term for term with maybe a slight difference in AAV. Not sure we can move him for futures only. Hard for us to guess cause we are not the ones getting the phone calls and hearing the offers.
Don't agree with that because he's never ever going to play a heavy workload again, best case scenario he'll play 35-40 games a year.With Price? A true rebuild don't start unless he is on LTIR for the rest of his career or he gets traded. I think he returns and puts this in the past but how long does that take? Not sure. Trading him? Not easy and you know what I think... only way to move him and get very good value is to retain and also take back a 1/2 year cap dumb. Would Molson do that? No idea. Will Gorton/Huhges decide this later once Price is back on the ice? .
I don't think Price has many years left, maybe 2 more after this one??I am also on the record at saying that I won't be surprised is many of these guys are still with us in a years time (Price, Gallagher, Petry, Toffoli, Hoffman).
Personally, I look at the Voracek for Atkinson trade. That might be something we have to consider. Maybe we can trade Petry for Klingberg but in a sign/trade? Something like that. Haven't dug deep into what are good options where other teams are looking to make a 1/1 swap.
All I know is it's very difficult to move a AAV/Term like that for futures only. Not in this flat cap!
I tend to agree, players with term are more likely offseason trades...though I think if they get a substantial offer for Toffoli, they're going to move him.
See impossible...but I could see a deal where it's a combination of futures + Habs taking back a bad contract.
Don't agree with that because he's never ever going to play a heavy workload again, best case scenario he'll play 35-40 games a year.
I think teams are very aware of his health situation and trading for and having a goalie making the kind money he does and who will have to be load managed for the rest of his career (which isn't much longer IMO), isn't ideal.
I don't think Price has many years left, maybe 2 more after this one??
As for the rest, I would suspect at least 2 of the remaining 4 won't be on this roster to open the 2022-23 season...but that's just a guess.
That's not my thinking because well, I don't think any singular draft pick can turn an entire franchise around.No doubt in my mind that there will be conversations but it might be just GM's trying to feel us out and to see if they can take advantage of us being sellers. We will see how our new management handles that and what they are able to pull off.
Price returning and back healthy hurts a rebuild. He's that good when healthy. I don't agree with your line of thinking that 10-15 range picks turns our franchise around. Price will move us up if he is back healthy. I won't complain too much cause I do like Price as a Habs but then I wonder, what kind of moves can they make to address the many flaws this core has?
He will never be healthy, or at least, completely healthy anymore.How many more good years does Price have if he is healthy again? I would say 2 years comfortably and maybe 3. Not sure about his age 38 season but I have more confidence in his age 35 and 36 seasons. Got to get past this rehab though. We will see about that very soon.
I think klingberg has much higher value than Voracek and Atkinson, while Petry is probably in their territory.
A different player than Klingberg may be closer to reality, but I'd rather wait to see if Petry can up his game when Edmundson returns than trade him for a bad return (like the viracek contract that seatlle didn't even take for free.
Friedman saying St. Louis are aggressive to get Chiarot. But they are not the only ones.
That's not my thinking because well, I don't think any singular draft pick can turn an entire franchise around.
I'm just telling you, he's not going to ever play 60 games a year anymore, forget back to back games, he's going to need a lot of rest in between starts for the rest of his career.
Carey Price = Load Management.
He will never be healthy, or at least, completely healthy anymore.
It's just about pain load/pain management at this point.
STL would make a lot of sense and they have interesting pieces for us
I like Bolduc in his draft year, but I need to say that I'm not impress with how he plays this year since he's with Québec. Joshua Roy by exemple is playing way better then him. I think it would be Neighbours OR 1st round pickIf Habs can get one of Bolduc or Neighbours in a deal with them, I'd be real happy.
The only pieces they need are a 1st round pick and some sweet-ass sweetner, like a 2nd rounder in 2023STL would make a lot of sense and they have interesting pieces for us
You still have Savard and Eddy and we will probably get veteran back in some deal (Petry/Gally)How about we trade Petry and sign Chariot we can't get rid of everyone we need veteran players for our younger core.
We don't know how GM value 34 years old defenseman who show indication of declining on a 6.25M$ cap hit for the next 3.5 seasons since there isn't a lot traded around the league, if at all.NHL GMs don't value players like fans do, in short samples.
Ultimately, a team that wants Petry is going to have to pay for the player he's proven to be for most of his career, which is a solid top 4 puck moving Dman who can chip in 40pts a year and play 22+ mins a game.
There's a lot of value in that...the tricky part is the salary and term.
Gallagher,Anderson,Edmundson and Savard are still around lets not act like we're trading everyone over 25,its time to rebuild and you wont rebuild fast if you wanna keep your vets with valueHow about we trade Petry and sign Chariot we can't get rid of everyone we need veteran players for our younger core.
STL would make a lot of sense and they have interesting pieces for us
Yes Doug Armstrong is one of the best in the business (#2 after Yzerman in my eyes)They've done well recently to not give up their top young talent (kyrou, thomas), but rather their secondary talent like Eller.
Vegas is the team I want to deal with when it comes to getting a prospect. But do they have any left?
Gallagher,Anderson,Edmundson and Savard are still around lets not act like we're trading everyone over 25,its time to rebuild and you wont rebuild fast if you wanna keep your vets with value
Chiarot needs to go