HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[sampollock]

Yeah, after he talked about getting bigger and tougher up front, he’ll probably reach for 5 foot nothing Rossi.

Stay away from the click bait Sam.

Click bait sometimes is just like we all of us guessing too.

Guessing is what fans do

 

[themilosh]

Ok guys just for the fun of it....would you do it and is the Hawks would listen?

Let say that you really want Demidov but you want to keep your 5th as well....it would cost....a lot ....;

To Chicago::

Guhle
Newhook
Jets pick
Calgary 2025 first pick

To Mtl:
2nd overall (Demidov )

..and you draft a D at 5th.

Not enough? Too much?

I'm not particularly high on Demidov (as a small winger) and now twice injured this year playing juniors in the MHL, so trading our 1st pairing Guhle (top 4 D), Newhook (solid 3rd liner, spot 2nd line duties), Jets pick (which can be used to move up to ~#15) and Calgary's pick (which can also be used to move up) - I's say it's a no from me dawg.,

I'd prefer Iginla to Demidov (any day of the week) - I am done caring about small forwards... we've gone through over a generation of impotency from this formula and I want out.

 

[Pat Riot]

I dont see a move up from our pick at 5. If somehow Demidov slip he will probably be our guy. Then we have Lindstrom and Iginla in option B and C. Hughes have the assets to move up in the top 15 if Sennecke , Helenius , Catton, Eiserman slip. If not maybe with winnipeg pick Connoly is still available. Cant wait for draft day and see which one we have at 5. I hope for Lindstrom but Demidov is a possibility and Iginla a certainty. Feel pretty good about our next forward prospect. The new management group is doing a great job, I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Number 25 is on the way.

 

[Miller Time]

Andersson is probably worth a pick in the 8-12 range by himself.

Highly doubt that... GMs tend to value high picks considerably, and the trade off btw 2yrs of player control vs 3 years of ELC plus RFA control on an asset they'd have reasonable grounds to expect develops into an equal or better contributor to Andersson skews the value heavily towards the pick... Especially for a rebuilding team like Montreal.

Basically 2 top-10 1sts for a top-5 pick. When you take into account there isn't very much separation between 5 and 9 this year, and that the Flames would be paying a premium to move up, I definitely think value wise it favors the Habs

Maybe I overrate Andersson

I think it's more the value to us.

A team like NJ might well roll the dice in that kind of swap (Andersson for 10OA), given their cap & roster situation and betting that they can be a playoff lock &/or contender as soon as next year.

His value as a 2-yr then UFA to us and most of the other top 10 picking teams I don't think sits at that level.

 

[Benstheman]

Andersson is probably worth a pick in the 8-12 range by himself. Basically 2 top-10 1sts for a top-5 pick. When you take into account there isn't very much separation between 5 and 9 this year, and that the Flames would be paying a premium to move up, I definitely think value wise it favors the Habs

Maybe I overrate Andersson

You are not. Andersson would instantly become our best D and AINEC. The Habs would be dumb to refuse the proposed deal.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I hope the Habs don't trade for Necas.

He's going to cost a lot in terms of assets and then a contract.

While the Habs need players like him, it's almost certainly too much for a 50 point player who isn't really noticeable in the playoffs.

 

[Habs Icing]

The idea of trading Matheson is that it would be trading on a high. He's on a good contract and just got a 60 point season.

But if Romanov was worth a 13th, I think Matheson should be worth more than a 15th.

I'm of the Frank Zappa school when it comes to drugs. I try to avoid making important decisions when I'm on a high.

 

[CaptnNemo]

I'm of the Frank Zappa school when it comes to drugs. I try to avoid making important decisions when I'm on a high.

Especially if you get your high in this kitchen! Loll live version is better

 

[Habs Icing]

I dont see a move up from our pick at 5. If somehow Demidov slip he will probably be our guy. Then we have Lindstrom and Iginla in option B and C. Hughes have the assets to move up in the top 15 if Sennecke , Helenius , Catton, Eiserman slip. If not maybe with winnipeg pick Connoly is still available. Cant wait for draft day and see which one we have at 5. I hope for Lindstrom but Demidov is a possibility and Iginla a certainty. Feel pretty good about our next forward prospect. The new management group is doing a great job, I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Number 25 is on the way.

Is that light moving towards you? If it is, I suggest turning around and running like hell.

 

[DAChampion]

Is that light moving towards you? If it is, I suggest turning around and running like hell.

I think you're the best comedian on the forum.

Even your screen name is funny.

 

[Whalers Fan]

It would take something like this for sure and i would do it deminov and a D both would be playing for the habs next year and making us better right away.

Neither of the players taken in this scenario would be playing in Montreal next season.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Roy - Dach - Toffoli
Armia - Newhook - Gallagher
Evans - Dvorak - Monahan

 

[therocket9]

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Roy - Dach - Toffoli
Armia - Newhook - Gallagher
Evans - Dvorak - Monahan

Where did Anderson go.

 

[Deus ex machina]

FWIW, some points of interest from Dave Pagnotta:

- As recent as this week, teams continue to ask the Montreal Canadiens about defenceman Arber Xhekaj, but Habs GM Kent Hughes keeps turning them away. Hughes isn’t interested in moving the sturdy blueliner but is open to moving some of his other young defencemen.

• Some teams are wondering if Cole Perfetti’s minimum usage in the playoffs means the Winnipeg Jets will take calls on him this summer. I’m not sure of GM Kevin Cheveldayoff’s appetite to explore a move here, but teams are expected to inquire.
• Expect Utah GM Bill Armstrong to be aggressive in reshaping his blueline. Defence is a priority this summer.
• Vegas wants to hold on to Jonathan Marchessault and I believe there is a pathway to an extension. Chandler Stephenson, however, may have priced himself out of the Golden Knights’ plans. If he hits the open market July 1, he’ll be a hot commodity.

 

[Vachon23]

FWIW, some points of interest from Dave Pagnotta:

- As recent as this week, teams continue to ask the Montreal Canadiens about defenceman Arber Xhekaj, but Habs GM Kent Hughes keeps turning them away. Hughes isn’t interested in moving the sturdy blueliner but is open to moving some of his other young defencemen.

• Some teams are wondering if Cole Perfetti’s minimum usage in the playoffs means the Winnipeg Jets will take calls on him this summer. I’m not sure of GM Kevin Cheveldayoff’s appetite to explore a move here, but teams are expected to inquire.
• Expect Utah GM Bill Armstrong to be aggressive in reshaping his blueline. Defence is a priority this summer.
• Vegas wants to hold on to Jonathan Marchessault and I believe there is a pathway to an extension. Chandler Stephenson, however, may have priced himself out of the Golden Knights’ plans. If he hits the open market July 1, he’ll be a hot commodity.

Bill, may I introduce you to Micheal Matheson

 

[Habs Icing]

I think you're the best comedian on the forum.

Even your screen name is funny.

Flattery is gonna get you nowhere. I know what you're up to. You wanna stroke my ego so I'll stop with the inane jokes. It ain't gonna work.

 

[Habs Icing]

Where did Anderson go.

Stud farm. They were in desperate need of power donkeys.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Bill, may I introduce you to Micheal Matheson

I could see that.

Only problem is, Matheson has a M-NTC.

Who do ask in return?
Lawson Crouse?

 

[Richiebottles]

I could see Kyrou being the target.

 

[Vachon23]

I could see that.

Only problem is, Matheson has a M-NTC.

Who do ask in return?
Lawson Crouse?

Crouse is a good target in a package

Connor Geekie too

 

[morhilane]

I could see that.

Only problem is, Matheson has a M-NTC.

Who do ask in return?
Lawson Crouse?

Their #6 pick...

Their D with the longest contract right now is Shea Weber.

 

[Xirik]

Crouse is a good target in a package

Connor Geekie too

You don't get Crouse to be the face of the team in the "Welcome the team party" for the fans if you are open to trading him.

 

[Vachon23]

You don't get Crouse to be the face of the team in the "Welcome the team party" for the fans if you are open to trading him.

Geekie or the 6th pick then

 

[HuGo Sham]

FWIW, some points of interest from Dave Pagnotta:

- As recent as this week, teams continue to ask the Montreal Canadiens about defenceman Arber Xhekaj, but Habs GM Kent Hughes keeps turning them away. Hughes isn’t interested in moving the sturdy blueliner but is open to moving some of his other young defencemen.

• Some teams are wondering if Cole Perfetti’s minimum usage in the playoffs means the Winnipeg Jets will take calls on him this summer. I’m not sure of GM Kevin Cheveldayoff’s appetite to explore a move here, but teams are expected to inquire.
• Expect Utah GM Bill Armstrong to be aggressive in reshaping his blueline. Defence is a priority this summer.
• Vegas wants to hold on to Jonathan Marchessault and I believe there is a pathway to an extension. Chandler Stephenson, however, may have priced himself out of the Golden Knights’ plans. If he hits the open market July 1, he’ll be a hot commodity.

to some he's a bottom pairing goon, but he sure seems to have many fans among GM's around the league. I wonder why?
Anyone actually paying attention to what's happening in the playoffs, especially Boston v Florida realizes how indispensable this kid and his brother (potentially) are to the Habs.
A tactical and public relations disaster to trade him, with a WC berth in mind as early as next season, imo

 

[Leto]

Geekie or the 6th pick then

I don't know if you are getting 6th OV value with Matheson. Maybe a pick in 10-15 range. I think there is good value to extract if you retain money on his last 2 years. There is probably a contender team that would bite on a puck-moving defenseman in his prime with 2 years left at a discount.​