Speculation: Trade Deadline Targets: Defensemen

Richard88

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With the deadline just 10 days away I thought it would be worth having a more focussed discussion thread about our trade targets. This thread is dedicated to defensemen, and to start the discussion off below is my top 10 list of trade deadline defenseman targets.

To preface this list, we've been linked to some shutdown RHD's, most notably David Savard, so whilst this list doesn't exlusively feature RHD's or shutdown Dmen, it is nonetheless heavily weighed in favour of them. Pending UFA's are also preferrable for the Avs given expansion and cap structure considerations, so some weighting is given to rentals.

Top 10 Trade Deadline Targets: Defensemen

1. David Savard, RD, $4.25m x 1 :cbj

The obvious top choice, but given that Tampa and Winnipeg are rumoured to be involved there may be a bidding war, and Sakic tends to shy away from that.
2. Niklas Hjalmarsson, LHD who plays LD/RD, $5m x 1 :coyotes2

He rejected a trade in October when Avs were reportedly interested, as he didn't want to move away from his kids after recently getting divorced. That said, if he's amenable to moving for just a few months instead of a full season, and if Arizona fall away a bit in the playoff hunt and become sellers, he'd be a great pickup as someone who brings veteran leadership and can play both sides.​

3. Jamie Oleksiak, LD, $2,137,500 x 1 :stars
A man-mountain at 6'7'' 255lbs who PK's and skates well for his size (as we saw first-hand last year against Dallas). The only thing counting against him as an option is his handedess; however, whilst Oleksiak ordinarily plays on the left, he's apparently played a bunch on the right side this year paired with Heiskanen (as per HockeyViz D pair charts), and it would thus probably be natural for him to play on the right if needed, paired with either Girard or Byram.
4. Justin Braun, RD, $1.8m x 2 :flyers

Braun is a prototypical shutdown Dman with size at 6'2'', 205lbs. He's played most of the season in the top 4 (sometimes on the 1st pair) and he's a big reason why Philadelphia stayed afloat in the playoff race as long as they did, given that he's posted a 52.0 CF% with 57% DZ starts and a +5 rating which leads all Flyers Dmen and is 2nd on the team only to Laughton's +8. He also brings a wealth of experience having played in 100 playoff games for San Jose and Philadelphia. His contract has an extra year of term, but at $1.8m it's hardly the sort of contract that would be a problem next year; in fact he might actually be a useful player to have on the roster next year as well, especially if Graves gets taken by Seattle. I could certainly see this being a solid fallback option for Sakic if he gets outbid for Savard.​

5. Josh Manson, RD, $4.1m x 2 :ducks

Manson fits what we need as a RHD shutdown Dman, but the downside is that he would likely be more expensive to acquire due to having an extra year of term - but that doesn't fit well with the Avs plan for the expansion draft, or for the cap structure. If the price to acquire him isn't too high though it might be worth exploring it purely as a rental option who we expose to Seattle. His recent injury issues and surgery before his comeback this month are also cause for concern, as the last thing the Avs need is another EJ contract.​

6. Sami Vatanen, RD, $2m x 1 :devils

Not really a shutdown type, but he is a RHS and has been doing well for NJ on the PK this year. According to NJ fans he should also likely be available for a 4th or 5th round pick which would be an affordable price if all Sakic wants to do is add a responsible NHL calibre RHD for depth.
7. Brandon Montour, RD, $3.85m x 1 :sabres

Montour isn't a defensive Dman at all - in fact his analytics show that he's pretty awful at stopping zone entries which may be enough on its own to stop this trade from happening. That said, he's nonetheless an intriguing option given that he is elite at transitioning the puck, hitting the 99th percentile in zone exits and zone entries a couple of years ago for instance. He's essentially a poor man's version of Tyson Barrie, who brings a similar level of transition game but doesn't have the creativity in the OZ to cash in on points or be an ideal option on the PP. Given how Avs completely overwhelmed Calgary and at times San Jose with the combination of Makar, Girard, and Barrie two years ago, perhaps Sakic could be tempted to go all-in on Dmen who are elite in transition. Bednar does afterall have a good track record of tailoring offense around guys like this, having got the best out of Barrie before he was traded.

8. Alex Goligoski, LD/RD, $5.475m x 1 :coyotes2

Goligoski is a guy who can play both sides and on the PK so may be a consideration as a cheap depth add. Some on this board have said that he has some serious character issues (or did something heinous in the past), so perhaps it would be best to steer clear.​

9. Ryan Murray, LD, $4.6m x 1 :devils

Murray is a smooth and mobile skater who plays a very solid defensive game, and doesn't look out of place as a No.3 or No.4 Dman. The knock on him is always how injury prone he is, which is a valid argument for sure. That said, he apparently saw a specialist last offseason and has changed his exercise routine to strengthen his core back muscles, which seems to have helped him judging by the fact that he's been healthy most of this season so far except for a stint out due to illness. Another argument against him is that his Corsi has decreased the last two seasons to 46.2% this year, though he also has a career high 57% DZ starts this year and plays on a bad team, so perhaps his possession metrics should be taken with a pinch of salt.​

10. Patrik Nemeth, LD, $3m x 1 :wings

A 3rd pair Dman who can be relied on to be good on the PK as your 6/7 Dman. He's been very good for Detroit (relatively speaking), and he's also a known commodity for Colorado, so in a busy season with little practice time he could step into the organisation seamlessly.
Honourable mentions (ie. scraping the barrel): Dmitry Kulikov LD, Jani Hakanpää RD, Ben Hutton LD, Jason Demers RD, Jordie Benn LD/RD, Jon Merrill LD.
 
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Moderators: Apologies but I accidentally posted this thread twice due to a "server error". Please delete one and merge any comments into one thread. Apologies for the inconvenience.

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I'd target Kulikov.
Not a bad idea actually. I deliberated about putting him higher but thought NJ would want to try to resign him rather than trade him. He's having a really good season, and would probably be much more affordable than the top targets.

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Not a bad idea actually. I deliberated about putting him higher but thought NJ would want to try to resign him rather than trade him. He's having a really good season, and would probably be much more affordable than the top targets.

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He's surprisingly solid, versatile, and can sit nights as the 7D along with coming dirt cheap or in a package deal grabbing Wedgewood. :nod:
 
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He's surprisingly solid, versatile, and can sit nights as the 7D along with coming dirt cheap or in a package deal grabbing Wedgewood. :nod:
Kulikov ticks the possession metrics box as well, despite being on a bad team and having 62% DZ starts this season.

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I don’t think they’ll go after a left shooting defenceman.

The Avs are already imbalanced with 5 LHD and 1 RHD. Even their current 7 Renouf, is a LHD.

All Braun, Savard, and Manson make sense. I’d be fine with any of those guys, depending on the price.
 

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@henchman24 Further on Kulikov, I also like that almost all of his teammates have positive xG metrics when they play with him, compared to without. The difference is pretty vast:

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He's the best player on NJ's team this season according to xG metrics:

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I second the idea of Kulikov being much higher on the list. Braun would be my top pick though if it's not Savard.
 
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I don’t think they’ll go after a left shooting defenceman.

The Avs are already imbalanced with 5 LHD and 1 RHD. Even their current 7 Renouf, is a LHD.

All Braun, Savard, and Manson make sense. I’d be fine with any of those guys, depending on the price.

I think Bednar cares more than Sakic does... G, Toews, Byram, and MacDonald have all shown the ability to play the right side at a high level. I think salary and cost win out here more than handedness. Avs could offer up more to New Jersey for them to retain half of Kulikov and Wedgewood's salaries to add both at a cool 925k. Or go all in on one deal with 1st + Barron for Wood/Zacha + Kuli (50%) + Wedgewood (50%)
 

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I second the idea of Kulikov being much higher on the list. Braun would be my top pick though if it's not Savard.
Love you too buddy! :cheers:

Now that I'm taking a closer look at Kulikov thanks to henchman's post I must admit that it was an oversight to put him outside the top 10. He should probably be like 5ht-6th on this list based on how he's playing this year. His skating, overall game, and in particular his ability to win back pucks against opponents cycle in the DZ would be a perfect complement to Byram or Girard who can both play on the right side if they have to.
 
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I think Bednar cares more than Sakic does... G, Toews, Byram, and MacDonald have all shown the ability to play the right side at a high level. I think salary and cost win out here more than handedness. Avs could offer up more to New Jersey for them to retain half of Kulikov and Wedgewood's salaries to add both at a cool 925k. Or go all in on one deal with 1st + Barron for Wood/Zacha + Kuli (50%) + Wedgewoon (50%)
I'm open to moving this years 1st, but very reluctant to move Barron. We're going to need that ELC and his style of play is a perfect fit in our bottom 6. I'd be far more open to moving Timmins in a trade like that than Barron, and I think Sakic would be as well.
 

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I'm open to moving this years 1st, but very reluctant to move Barron. We're going to need that ELC and his style of play is a perfect fit in our bottom 6. I'd be far more open to moving Timmins in a trade like that than Barron, and I think Sakic would be as well.

If New Jersey wanted Timmins, they'd already have him.
 

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I think Bednar cares more than Sakic does... G, Toews, Byram, and MacDonald have all shown the ability to play the right side at a high level. I think salary and cost win out here more than handedness. Avs could offer up more to New Jersey for them to retain half of Kulikov and Wedgewood's salaries to add both at a cool 925k. Or go all in on one deal with 1st + Barron for Wood/Zacha + Kuli (50%) + Wedgewood (50%)

I’d do that deal in a heartbeat.

As for the bolded, I imagine Sakic values Bednar’s opinion pretty highly when it comes to deadline moves. It’s the last piece, or two to the puzzle and no one knows what’s needed more than the coach.

I’m not saying that there’s no chance they go after a Lefty on defence, but I think they’ll be looking at all the righty’s first. If they strike out, or the price is too high, they might pivot.

Handedness usually wouldn’t be a big factor, but considering they’re already so imbalanced, I do think it’s going to be a consideration.
 
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Haven't we tried to get Kulikov before? Seems like I've heard us in trade rumors with him in the past. And Joe always gets his man - eventually.

Although he doesn't play for CBJ, so maybe not...
 
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I want nothing to do with Nemeth again.

Bah, he was fine as a 6th D for the Avs. That first year was rough because his decision-making with the puck was...not great. But he finally settled down in Year Two and quit trying to blindly huck it every time it landed on his stick.

Mind you, I'm not terribly interested in the Avs giving up assets to get him back, but there are far worse options out there.
 

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Nemeth is exactly like Holden and Graves. They kill any offense and the cycle every time they get the puck in the O zone. I also don't believe his PK ability was all the sun shine and rainbows you guys are remembering.
 

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Nemeth is exactly like Holden and Graves. They kill any offense and the cycle every time they get the puck in the O zone. I also don't believe his PK ability was all the sun shine and rainbows you guys are remembering.

It was better than Pateryn
 

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Nemeth is exactly like Holden and Graves. They kill any offense and the cycle every time they get the puck in the O zone. I also don't believe his PK ability was all the sun shine and rainbows you guys are remembering.

No he wasn't some whiz at PK'ing anymore than Graves is now (I still say Graves was much better at the PK when he first took over for Nemeth and the coaches messed him up) but he was still capable of working the PK, which is more than we can say about him than, say, Zadorov or Cole, who were simply not good at killing penalties--the former was downright atrocious.

He held his own as a depth option, there are worse players out there--I'm not clamoring to get him back but I don't hate the guy at all.
 
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No he wasn't some whiz at PK'ing anymore than Graves is now (I still say Graves was much better at the PK when he first took over for Nemeth and the coaches messed him up) but he was still capable of working the PK, which is more than we can say about him than, say, Zadorov or Cole, who were simply not good at killing penalties--the former was downright atrocious.

He held his own as a depth option, there are worse players out there--I'm not clamoring to get him back but I don't hate the guy at all.
I definitely despised him as a player. I don't know if any advanced stats track when a defenseman was on the ice for a goal against in a tie game, but I bet his with the Avalanche would be absurdly high. I also don't remember him having very good wheels.

You're not wrong about Zads. I love the man and wish we kept him over Graves, but he was beyond terrible on the PK.
 

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