Pre-Game Talk: Trade Deadline Center (All Flyers and NHL Trade Talk) (Chuck Fletcher state-of-the-team update 2/28)

[Hollywood Cannon]

Alright so as promised now that i'm at a laptop...

Let's try and put all of this trade deadline talk both as it pertains to the Flyers themselves and the rest of the league in this thread.

Let's leave the Roster thread to talk about how the team is now and news that is going on there with injuries and what not and the Miscellaneous NHL Talk just to talk about games and what not going on.

Let's see how this goes.

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[win88ice2004]

- JVR and a pick for greenway is all but happening. Minn gonna then flip JVR for another 2nd and laugh at Chuck.
- Provy is going to Van for Boeser 1 for 1.
- TDA with a pick going to Carolina after we just paid them a bunch of picks to sign him would be hilarious.
- who are we trading for Puljujarvi?

Other teams cap dumps are the players we are trying to acquire....classic

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

- JVR and a pick for greenway is all but happening. Minn gonna then flip JVR for another 2nd and laugh at Chuck.
- Provy is going to Van for Boeser 1 for 1.
- TDA with a pick going to Carolina after we just paid them a bunch of picks to sign him would be hilarious.
- who are we trading for Puljujarvi?

Other teams cap dumps are the players we are trying to acquire....classic

That's entirely too much action for Chuck. You can only have one of those and then a Braun for a 7th deal.

No more, no less.

He'd die of exhaustion if he had to do all of that work.

 

[BernieParent]

It is Chuck to be fair.

Interest is TDA, 2 2nds and 50 % retention for futures.

It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. It takes a Flyers GM to make it much, much worse.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

So how long do we have before The Authentics use Fletcher going to Harvard is held as an example of how nerds shouldn't run hockey teams? Does that start before or after the failing upward?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

So how long do we have before The Authentics use Fletcher going to Harvard is held as an example of how nerds shouldn't run hockey teams? Does that start before or after the failing upward?

JFC, we got Jojo to call them The Authentics. He's down in the mud with us.

 

[BernieParent]

 

[kudymen]

Have the experts been consulted on the timing of opening this thread? Isn’t it too soon for deadline moves talk?

 

[TB87]

Have the experts been consulted on the timing of opening this thread? Isn’t it too soon for deadline moves talk?

I wonder what the dentists believe. They must be consulted.

 

[Danko]

Lafferty to Toronto

 

[Rich Nixon]

the absolute GOAT of Flyers Twitter, always distills the sentiments so well

 

[Danko]

So takes Toronto out of the jvr sweeps

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Firsts getting thrown around like candy, though this one depends on the conditions...


I also love that all of this action is happening before deadline day. The hockey broadcasters are going to be eating pizza on the air again.

 

[deadhead]

So how long do we have before The Authentics use Fletcher going to Harvard is held as an example of how nerds shouldn't run hockey teams? Does that start before or after the failing upward?

Well, having worked with Harvard MBAs and economists and taught by Yale Law School graduates, I'm not as impressed with these people as most. Basically, they're the winners of the "connections" lottery, b/c while there's a few who are brillant, the vast majority are the same people who populate the other top 20 schools and the top of the state schools. They had the right parents or gamed the system or just got lucky.

 

[Rebels57]

Firsts getting thrown around like candy, though this one depends on the conditions...


I also love that all of this action is happening before deadline day. The hockey broadcasters are going to be eating pizza on the air again.

Don't worry - Charles Danger Fletcher will provide them with some entertainment as he waits until the very last second then takes the worst package offered all week for JVR.

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

Chucks waiting til all the draft picks and prospects are gone before he makes his move.

 

[Rich Nixon]

- Provy is going to Van for Boeser 1 for 1.

- who are we trading for Puljujarvi?

The no-brainer to me would be agreeing to take Puljujarvi to offset a Provorov deal to Edmonton that involved a handful of picks and prospects, but it appears the Oilers are looking elsewhere (Ekholm, etc) and Chuck has no nuts.

When you decide a player is done with the franchise you just f***ing move him. Provorov could have returned a good package two months ago, before the market filled up and so many buyers shot their load. Now their best bet is the offseason—or next year most likely, when they decide he's just too valuable and they hang on a little longer only to have the same cycle of mediocre play/pissy attitude remind them he should have been gone years back.

Selling is an active process. You reach out to teams and gauge interest, you make the coach give them appropriate usage. You're a salesman, you sell the players. Chuck Fletcher doesn't understand anything, but that's one area in particular I can say for certain he just doesn't do right.

 

[dats81]

Teams like Chicago, St.Louis, Vancouver are tearing it down, putting much better and younger roster players on the market than what you can typically find at the TDL. Not good from a Flyers' perspective.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I laugh that Carolina & Toronto go out & rebuild their defense every few years without giving up crazy cap &/or assets.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Also, on the reclamation projects front, the Flyers already have a lot and all but one suck. Tippett is actually quite decent. If they were a serious rebuilder, holy shit they should trade him.

Looking at what Jeannot just returned, they could absolutely bag a haul for Tippett. But never, in a billion years, would they. He looks like he could be a steady 25g/50p guy, and those are worth more than gold! 7 years, $6m per.

 

[win88ice2004]

The no-brainer to me would be agreeing to take Puljujarvi to offset a Provorov deal to Edmonton,

I agree, there is nothing wrong with doing this, the problem is how many reclamation projects can you have. The Flyers have an abundance of RWs that would play over him, so he would be pushed down the lineup to play with our AHL players, compounding the problem. If he is an addon sure, but as the main piece coming back...absolutely not.

Same issue with Greenway/JVR trade that is rumored for that matter. Cap space is an asset, which Chuckles does not understand. If you are allowing people to stash their players on your payroll, you need to be compensated for it.

 

[Rich Nixon]

I agree, there is nothing wrong with doing this, the problem is how many reclamation projects can you have. The Flyers have an abundance of RWs that would play over him, so he would be pushed down the lineup to play with our AHL players, compounding the problem. If he is an addon sure, but as the main piece coming back...absolutely not.

Oh he's absolutely a cap dump, and he doesn't have a contract for next season, so who cares. You'd have to be an absolute idiot to make him the main piece in a deal for Provorov. Unfortunately their GM is one of those, but...

 

[win88ice2004]

Looking at what Jeannot just returned, they could absolutely bag a haul for Tippett.

No kidding eh! More like to see the return for Laughton. Based on TB responses they liked the cost controlled asset for a few years. Laughton is as controlled as it gets.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

A buyer & seller at the deadline. Radical concept around these parts.

 

[Danko]

Hear that Season Ticket Holders?