Toronto Maple Leafs Mid Season Prospect Rankings #4

[mikebel111*]

This is exactly why Matt Finn was so highly ranked by our fans like 2 years ago. People said the same about him.

Brown's obviously a good prospect, and has a great chance to make it, but he's not top 3 at least imo.

I was a big Finn fan. However there is a big time difference. Brown has shown he can play in the AHL at a high level. Finn has trouble sticking in the AHL.
The scenarios are different

 

[supermann_98]

Voted Andreas Johnson last time and I'm voting him again.

 

[Banic]

Has Matt Finn dominated a men's league?

No he hasn't - Though Connor Brown has yet to reach PPG in the AHL himself (something that is done every year by multiple players) so I would argue he also hasn't "dominated" a men's league - though he has looked very good.

My only point is that "beating detractors" in the past is not indicative of future success. Nor should it be considered as evidence for someone being considered a top 3 prospect.

We all love a warrior, a heart and soul guy, and an underdog. But every team has one or many. Brown was a 6th round pick who has beaten the odds for that round. Yes he has progressed very well, but if he were a 1st rounder -who is still in the AHL - maybe we wouldn't be so high on him, as seen many times in the past.

I love the kid, don't get me wrong, but this board has a tendency to vote with their heart for those they like ... take a look at past year polls and see how well we call it.

I was a big Finn fan. However there is a big time difference. Brown has shown he can play in the AHL at a high level. Finn has trouble sticking in the AHL.
The scenarios are different

Absolutely mike, Brown is a way better prospect than Finn was, to that we will agree. I'm only saying that we shouldn't take "proving everyone wrong" into account.

 

[mikebel111*]

No he hasn't - Though Connor Brown has yet to reach PPG in the AHL himself (something that is done every year by multiple players) so I would argue he also hasn't "dominated" a men's league - though he has looked very good.

My only point is that "beating detractors" in the past is not indicative of future success. Nor should it be considered as evidence for someone being considered a top 3 prospect.

We all love a warrior, a heart and soul guy, and an underdog. But every team has one or many. Brown was a 6th round pick who has beaten the odds for that round. Yes he has progressed very well, but if he were a 1st rounder -who is still in the AHL - maybe we wouldn't be so high on him, as seen many times in the past.

I love the kid, don't get me wrong, but this board has a tendency to vote with their heart for those they like ... take a look at past year polls and see how well we call it.



Absolutely mike, Brown is a way better prospect than Finn was, to that we will agree. I'm only saying that we shouldn't take "beating the odds" into account.

Yeah Brown still has to prove himself in the NHL, but the promise is there

 

[Duckrider]

I went with Kap on this one (Thought he should've gone #3 as well).

Surprised Bracco isn't getting any love. Kind of funny that our fifth round pick is getting more love than both our second round picks.

Its only because Brown is much older and farther along in his development.

 

[Banic]

Yeah Brown still has to prove himself in the NHL, but the promise is there

I definitely hope so - and believe so as well. I just think Kapanen should have gone 3rd lol.

 

[mikebel111*]

I definitely hope so - and believe so as well. I just think Kapanen should have gone 3rd lol.

Yeah I could see the argument for Kapi at 3rd. I was considering Kapi in that spot. I put Brown because of his play in the AHL, but I think its close.
Hey look we agreed on something. Maybe we just shouldnt talk about Kadri with each other

 

[Atomos2]

Kappy can't hear you over the hardware.

Did you not watch the WJC? It's not as if Kap was awful the whole tournament and then just scored a fluke GWG.

Also saying "OTHER than scoring the GWG in his home country to win WJC Gold, what has he ever done?" is pretty funny.

I take Brown's individual success in the OHL and AHL over Kapanen piggybacking Puljujarvi and Laine's hardwork.

 

[mikebel111*]

I take Brown's individual success in the OHL and AHL over Kapanen piggybacking Puljujarvi and Laine's hardwork.

IMO your a little harsh on Kapanen. I have brown higher but that's because Brown at this moment has proven more

 

[Atomos2]

IMO your a little harsh on Kapanen. I have brown higher but that's because Brown at this moment has proven more

It's tough love. I'd be overjoyed if he proves me wrong, but for now, I take Brown 20 out of 10 times.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Kap has a higher ceiling than Brown, but Brown's performance in the AHL so far gives him the edge. I have Kap over Brown but I can certainly see the argument. It's basically a coin flip.

Brown blew expectations for his rookie AHL season out of the water last year for a 6th round pick. 61 points in 76 games is damn awesome for that. And he has a no quite attitude - he'll be an NHLer in some capacity.

 

[mikebel111*]

It's tough love. I'd be overjoyed if he proves me wrong, but for now, I take Brown 20 out of 10 times.

Fair enough.

 

[Diddy]

Next poll I'm torn between Johnson, tymashov, and Nielsen.
I'm probably higher on Nielsen then most but when I see him play live he seems to dominate.

 

[Muston Atthews]

No he hasn't - Though Connor Brown has yet to reach PPG in the AHL himself (something that is done every year by multiple players) so I would argue he also hasn't "dominated" a men's league - though he has looked very good.

My only point is that "beating detractors" in the past is not indicative of future success. Nor should it be considered as evidence for someone being considered a top 3 prospect.

We all love a warrior, a heart and soul guy, and an underdog. But every team has one or many. Brown was a 6th round pick who has beaten the odds for that round. Yes he has progressed very well, but if he were a 1st rounder -who is still in the AHL - maybe we wouldn't be so high on him, as seen many times in the past.

I love the kid, don't get me wrong, but this board has a tendency to vote with their heart for those they like ... take a look at past year polls and see how well we call it.



Absolutely mike, Brown is a way better prospect than Finn was, to that we will agree. I'm only saying that we shouldn't take "proving everyone wrong" into account.

Brown was league leader in points in his last year in the OHL. He lead the AHL in rookie scoring last year. This year he's been injured for a lot of it.

 

[Moonman]

I vote Kasperi the friendly ghost.

 

[Damisoph]

I went with Kap on this one (Thought he should've gone #3 as well).

Surprised Bracco isn't getting any love. Kind of funny that our fifth round pick is getting more love than both our second round picks.

That Nitro Mysteron article did wonders for his rep

 

[Warden of the North]

This is exactly why Matt Finn was so highly ranked by our fans like 2 years ago. People said the same about him.

Brown's obviously a good prospect, and has a great chance to make it, but he's not top 3 at least imo.

And then Finn fell off a cliff. His performance has precisely nothing to do with Brown.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

That Nitro Mysteron article did wonders for his rep

Nothing to do with the great season he's currently having, including a good WJC... nothing. That article came out in the summer..

 

[Mess]

In my mind Dermott is a better defenseman than Nielsen, and TD rounds out the top 5 for me. Nielsen is #8 after Timashov at #7 in my opinion.

The value we got out of the 2015 draft looks insane so far.

Dermott is the better player AINEC IMO

Team Canada agrees.

I think Dermott should be battling Kapanen for this spot.

 

[shaner8989]

1) Nylander
2) Marner
3) Kapanen
4) Brown
5) Dermott
6) Johnson
7) Timashov
8) Nielsen
9) Soshnikov
10) Leipsic

Best list I've seen and it's perfect

Hm to Harrington

 

[Quiksilver*]

Dermott, again.

 

[Canada4Gold]

This has the feel of 3 tiers to me. Nylander/Marner, once the first one was over the 2nd was gonna be a landslide. Brown/Kapanen, once 3 as over 4 was gonna be a landslide.

5-7 feels like Johnson, Dermott, and Timashov to me, I think Nielsen will be after that and then 9 onward it's anyones guess.

 

[namttebih]

The "kids playing a leading role for the marlies" part is kind of misleading considering both Brennan and Arbobello are currently the highest scoring marlies.

It didn't say that the veterans aren't contributing squat and the kids are 1-10 in all offensive stat lines.

Besides Brennan scoring a ton of points, he's been far from our best defenceman.

I agree with the statement.

 

[Mess]

Folks we have a clear cut winner here.

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