Proposal: TOR CAR WPG

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  1. DominicBoltsFan

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    Jets are in cap hell next summer. Leafs have a Nylander holdout. Canes have some great talent on defense and could use even more offensive talent to turn them into a true Cup contender. So here’s my idea:

    To WPG:

    Brett Pesce
    Rasmus Sandin
    Haydn Fleury
    CAR 2nd

    To CAR:

    William Nylander
    Bryan Little

    To TOR:

    Jacob Trouba

    Thoughts?
     
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    In the multitude of Trouba to Toronto threads isn't it always pointed out that Trouba doesn't like Canada?
     
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    So its basically a Leafs fan trying to get Trouba for Nylander .
     
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    True. That is erroneously brought up every time.
     
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    If Trouba comes with a 7x7 deal okay.
     
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    I think this makes a lot more sense for the jets than a move around Nylander, since they get back a quality RHD in Pesce (not as good as Trouba but still really good)
     
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    Trouba has no interest in playing anywhere north of the border - this includes both Winnipeg and Toronto.
     
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    Value aside: Doesn't little have a NMC? Don't think he'd want to move from a solid cup contender to a team that is likely a bubble team at best.
     
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    Canes aren’t adding Fleury + 2nd for Little and he isn’t waiving his NMC anyway.
     
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    Why is Winnipeg necessary at all? I'd rather have Pesce on a good contract than Trouba asking for 9+. That's even without considering that we're adding Sandin for some unknown reason.
     
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    i dont see why this deal makes any sense
     
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    Canes are better than a bubble team tbh
     
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    Losing both Sandin and Nylander for Trouba is unbalenced in terms of value for Toronto’s perspective, I don’t think the Leafs go for that, Nylander straight up is probably all that would be in this. Winnipeg might go for this deal, because they are getting some solid cost-controlled pieces that could be useful in the future out of that, but again, they are contending this year for a Cup Trouba is better then Pesce on their blue-line. Carolina definitely does because they are getting unquestionably better parts then they are giving up.

    Beyond just a value issue, the problem with all these Nylander for Trouba threads is that it is essentially two teams trading bear identical problems: both players are dead set on demanding above market value from their teams, which are both facing imminent cap crunches. Swapping problems like this doesn’t solve much.
     
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    ....so lets find a way to exhaust that with the following offer.....
     
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    They would still have probably the 2nd or 3rd best blueline in the NHL if they did this, while adding Nylander and Little to the offensive ranks
     
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    Losing the best piece imo, but I would do it due to cap reasons.
     
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    Maybe, maybe not.
     
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    Carolina needs to add Trevor van Riemsdyk - a legit top pairing defenseman - to the proposal.
     
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    Care to post a source for this? I've heard nothing but speculation around this and not a single real source since it was first rumored. But I may have missed it.
     
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    The Canes would have Aho, Staal, Nylander, Rask and Wallmark as center options at the NHL level, with prized prospect Necas and Roy in Charlotte.

    Not only would Carolina have a limited need for Little in the short-term in that hypothetical, but also his contract poses a real problem in the mid-term, as Aho, Teravainen, Hamilton, Faulk, Svechnikov, etc. get raises on their next contracts.
     
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    I'd much rather Pesce for the Leafs do to his cap and his cheaper acquisition cost.
    No need to include Winnipeg.
     
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    I mean, it would be nice to see these two teams somehow solve eachothers pending cap issues, but I can’t really see it. Both essentially have the problem of having young guys who are among their best players but not the best (or even top-3) wanting new contracts that are above their market value, and both teams need them to probably take a modest discount in order to keep everyone long-term.
     
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    Not trading Nylander for a guy with less RFA control. Definitely not trading Sandin.
     
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    Source?
     
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    Carolina gets bent over in this hard. Value wise and with regards to needs.
     
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