Proposal: TOR CAR WPG

[VoluntaryDom]

Jets are in cap hell next summer. Leafs have a Nylander holdout. Canes have some great talent on defense and could use even more offensive talent to turn them into a true Cup contender. So here’s my idea:

To WPG:

Brett Pesce
Rasmus Sandin
Haydn Fleury
CAR 2nd

To CAR:

William Nylander
Bryan Little

To TOR:

Jacob Trouba

Thoughts?

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[ACC1224]

In the multitude of Trouba to Toronto threads isn't it always pointed out that Trouba doesn't like Canada?

 

[slg1963]

So its basically a Leafs fan trying to get Trouba for Nylander .

 

[Snowman]

In the multitude of Trouba to Toronto threads isn't it always pointed out that Trouba doesn't like Canada?

True. That is erroneously brought up every time.

 

[Maximus74]

If Trouba comes with a 7x7 deal okay.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I think this makes a lot more sense for the jets than a move around Nylander, since they get back a quality RHD in Pesce (not as good as Trouba but still really good)

 

[mashedpotato]

Trouba has no interest in playing anywhere north of the border - this includes both Winnipeg and Toronto.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Value aside: Doesn't little have a NMC? Don't think he'd want to move from a solid cup contender to a team that is likely a bubble team at best.

 

[GoldiFox]

Canes aren’t adding Fleury + 2nd for Little and he isn’t waiving his NMC anyway.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Why is Winnipeg necessary at all? I'd rather have Pesce on a good contract than Trouba asking for 9+. That's even without considering that we're adding Sandin for some unknown reason.

 

[Dabest]

i dont see why this deal makes any sense

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Value aside: Doesn't little have a NMC? Don't think he'd want to move from a solid cup contender to a team that is likely a bubble team at best.

Canes are better than a bubble team tbh

 

[NoName]

Losing both Sandin and Nylander for Trouba is unbalenced in terms of value for Toronto’s perspective, I don’t think the Leafs go for that, Nylander straight up is probably all that would be in this. Winnipeg might go for this deal, because they are getting some solid cost-controlled pieces that could be useful in the future out of that, but again, they are contending this year for a Cup Trouba is better then Pesce on their blue-line. Carolina definitely does because they are getting unquestionably better parts then they are giving up.

Beyond just a value issue, the problem with all these Nylander for Trouba threads is that it is essentially two teams trading bear identical problems: both players are dead set on demanding above market value from their teams, which are both facing imminent cap crunches. Swapping problems like this doesn’t solve much.

 

[Svechhammer]

Canes have some great talent on defense

....so lets find a way to exhaust that with the following offer.....

 

[VoluntaryDom]

....so lets find a way to exhaust that with the following offer.....

They would still have probably the 2nd or 3rd best blueline in the NHL if they did this, while adding Nylander and Little to the offensive ranks

 

[Hunter368]

Losing the best piece imo, but I would do it due to cap reasons.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Canes are better than a bubble team tbh

Maybe, maybe not.

 

[BonMorrison]

Carolina needs to add Trevor van Riemsdyk - a legit top pairing defenseman - to the proposal.

 

[slimbob8]

Trouba has no interest in playing anywhere north of the border - this includes both Winnipeg and Toronto.

Care to post a source for this? I've heard nothing but speculation around this and not a single real source since it was first rumored. But I may have missed it.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The Canes would have Aho, Staal, Nylander, Rask and Wallmark as center options at the NHL level, with prized prospect Necas and Roy in Charlotte.

Not only would Carolina have a limited need for Little in the short-term in that hypothetical, but also his contract poses a real problem in the mid-term, as Aho, Teravainen, Hamilton, Faulk, Svechnikov, etc. get raises on their next contracts.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Jets are in cap hell next summer. Leafs have a Nylander holdout. Canes have some great talent on defense and could use even more offensive talent to turn them into a true Cup contender. So here’s my idea:

To WPG:

Brett Pesce
Rasmus Sandin
Haydn Fleury
CAR 2nd

To CAR:

William Nylander
Bryan Little

To TOR:

Jacob Trouba

Thoughts?

I'd much rather Pesce for the Leafs do to his cap and his cheaper acquisition cost.
No need to include Winnipeg.

 

[NoName]

I'd much rather Pesce for the Leafs do to his cap and his cheaper acquisition cost.
No need to include Winnipeg.

I mean, it would be nice to see these two teams somehow solve eachothers pending cap issues, but I can’t really see it. Both essentially have the problem of having young guys who are among their best players but not the best (or even top-3) wanting new contracts that are above their market value, and both teams need them to probably take a modest discount in order to keep everyone long-term.

 

[Brobust]

Not trading Nylander for a guy with less RFA control. Definitely not trading Sandin.

 

[Peter Tagli Eddie]

Trouba has no interest in playing anywhere north of the border - this includes both Winnipeg and Toronto.

Source?

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Carolina gets bent over in this hard. Value wise and with regards to needs.