Top Shelf Prospects: 2018 Calgary Flames

[LastWordArmy]

Rankings and Scouting Reports for the top 10 Flames Prospects plus a sleeper

TSP: Top Calgary Flames Prospects - Last Word on Hockey

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[Lunatik]

That is surprisingly a half decent list.

 

[Kahvi]

Rankings and Scouting Reports for the top 10 Flames Prospects plus a sleeper

TSP: Top Calgary Flames Prospects - Last Word on Hockey

Dillon, not Dylan. And last name Dubé (at least according to eliteprospects, but the funny thing is that his brother is listed as "Dube")

 

[LastWordArmy]

Dillon, not Dylan. And last name Dubé (at least according to eliteprospects, but the funny thing is that his brother is listed as "Dube")

My bad on first name

We don't put accents on anyone's names though. Messes with Hockey-Reference linker which we use to link to their stats pages when they play one NHL game

 

[Kahvi]

We don't put accents on anyone's names though. Messes with Hockey-Reference linker which we use to link to their stats pages when they play one NHL game

Yeah that was more of a general comment, I've always wondered about Dubé / Dube since I first noticed it at Eliteprospects

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Honestly these guys are the best prospect online site I’ve seen. They do a really good job.

 

[LastWordArmy]

Honestly these guys are the best prospect online site I’ve seen. They do a really good job.

I will pass that on to Ben who handles our prospect coverage. He works hard and will appreciate that

 

[SaintMorose]

It’s hard to write articles explaining things to people on here who follow and watch Flames players and prospects every opportunity we get.

That said this managed to be really insightful in some areas, LWoS has really gotten good over the last year imho.

 

[MDCSL]

You have Kylington listed as shooting “light” instead of left lol. But good list.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

You have Kylington listed as shooting “light” instead of left lol. But good list.

One of Kylington's many underrated skills.

 

[Anglesmith]

Enough bickering. The topic of the thread is the article.

 

[SKRusty]

Parsons is rated way to high. Especially after he had a very difficult season. Gillies is the most ready goalie on your list of prospects.
I question if Parsons is able to become an NHL caliber goalie considering his size and style of play. Parsons barely sustained a 0.900 save percentage in the ECHL and was destroyed in the AHL (0.856). IMO Tyler should have considered going into NCAA where they have shown great development of goalies.

 

[Volica]

Parsons is rated way to high. Especially after he had a very difficult season. Gillies is the most ready goalie on your list of prospects.
I question if Parsons is able to become an NHL caliber goalie considering his size and style of play. Parsons barely sustained a 0.900 save percentage in the ECHL and was destroyed in the AHL (0.856). IMO Tyler should have considered going into NCAA where they have shown great development of goalies.

4 years older than Ty Parsons.
Goalies are voodoo. But I like the kid who has been able to dominate leagues he's in until this past season.

Gillies to me is a year and a half away from being an AHL journeyman.

 

[InfinityIggy]

4 years older than Ty Parsons.
Goalies are voodoo. But I like the kid who has been able to dominate leagues he's in until this past season.

Gillies to me is a year and a half away from being an AHL journeyman.

Meh, I'm not too worried about Parsons lackluster first pro season. Likewise, Gillies only needs to improve on his play at the NHL level from last year slightly to be a serviceable backup. Both guys still have lots of upside and 24 y/o for a goalie prospect on the cusp of being an NHL player is pretty par for the course.

 

[DFF]

Meh, I'm not too worried about Parsons lackluster first pro season.

I don't know. Good goalie don't f*** up that badly. Good luck recovering from that.

I have stopped expecting anything from a flames drafted goalie long time ago

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I don't know. Good goalie don't **** up that badly. Good luck recovering from that.

I have stopped expecting anything from a flames drafted goalie long time ago

Mike Vernon once had a GAA of 8.10 over his first two seasons with the Flames.

Good young goalies are worth waiting for. You just don't give them the reigns too soon or you get Trevor Kidd.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Parsons is a stud.

 

[DFF]

Mike Vernon once had a GAA of 8.10 over his first two seasons with the Flames.

Good young goalies are worth waiting for. You just don't give them the reigns too soon or you get Trevor Kidd.

Do you have any example newer than Mike Vernon?

Otherwise, you are confirming my point on the Flames incompetency in finding the right goalie.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Do you have any example newer than Mike Vernon?

Otherwise, you are confirming my point on the Flames incompetency in finding the right goalie.

I was simply countering this point:

Good goalie don't **** up that badly.

I'm quite aware of the Flames' history of poor goalie development.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Vernon might actually be the last Flames goalie who wasn’t immediately ejected into the sun after a rough start to his career.

 

[Lunatik]

Vernon might actually be the last Flames goalie who wasn’t immediately ejected into the sun after a rough start to his career.

Pretty much. They destroyed the development of several, whether by not giving them a chance again after a rough start to their career, or burying them for AHL vets in the minors. Fortunately, Treliving doesn't come across as that kind of GM to me.

Just glancing through the list of Flames goalies, a few examples of guys who were mishandled.

- Leland Irving, had a good start to his NHL career (7 games), during the lockout he was signed to an AHL contract to be a 3rd string goalie behind 2 AHL veterans. Then they never gave him a chance after he struggled once he got into game action.
- Phillippe Sauve was traded after getting into a fight in his 6th game.
- JS Giguere, given 22 games and then traded. Oh, what could have been.
- Curtis McElhinney, given 29 games over 3 years, had good AHL numbers. He's still an NHL calibre backup today.
- Matt Keetley, was poorly developed, barely got a shot at the AHL level. Then would get sent to the ECHL to get a handful of games. He should have started in the ECHL.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Irving should have been a stud.

 

[Potty John]

That would more or less be a very similar list to what I would have come up with. Props.

 

[Volica]

Meh, I'm not too worried about Parsons lackluster first pro season. Likewise, Gillies only needs to improve on his play at the NHL level from last year slightly to be a serviceable backup. Both guys still have lots of upside and 24 y/o for a goalie prospect on the cusp of being an NHL player is pretty par for the course.

I agree, but at that age, it seems to be make or break.
He'll either make the jump, or he won't.