Top Canadian NHL Players Since Expansion - #1

[DitchMarner]

Who's the best Canadian NHL player since the 1967 NHL expansion?


*Only players who began their careers after 1967-1968 or played three or fewer complete seasons in the NHL before 1967-1968 are included as options.

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[rent free]

gretzky

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Start at #2 to save time, maybe #3


Gretzky
Lemieux

 

[amnesiac]

add Bossy

 

[Steven Toast]

Top 4 will be Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux, Crosby

 

[nowhereman]

Top 4 will be Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux, Crosby

My thoughts, as well. Easy top 4 and then it's a toss-up from there.

 

[amnesiac]

My thoughts, as well. Easy top 4 and then it's a toss-up from there.

I predict the following 4 will be (in order):
Roy
Bourque
Messier
Espo

but wouldnt be surprised if Sakic or Brodeur get voted in too high

 

[amnesiac]

must say Im a little surprised Mario or Orr havent got a single vote after 20

 

[Voight]

Start at #2 to save time, maybe #3


Gretzky
Lemieux

Ever heard of Bobby Orr?

Top 4 will be Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux, Crosby

Imagine thinking Crosby is better than Howe.....

 

[bobholly39]

Ever heard of Bobby Orr or Gordie Howe ?



Imagine thinking Crosby is better than Howe.....

Its since expansion. Crosby is better than Howe

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Ever heard of Bobby Orr or Gordie Howe ?



Imagine thinking Crosby is better than Howe.....

Yep heard of them both, neither are better than Gretz/Lem

 

[Voight]

Its since expansion. Crosby is better than Howe

Jumped the gun there

Yea, since 67 I won't argue.

Yep heard of them both, neither are better than Gretz/Lem

Orr is easily better than Lemieux.

 

[jetsforever]

No option for Clutterbuck?

 

[Dirby Kach]

if i teleported 1993 Gretzky into 20-21 LA Kings camp, he wouldnt even make the opening night roster.

 

[amnesiac]

if i teleported 1993 Gretzky into 20-21 LA Kings camp, he wouldnt even make the opening night roster.

your point? were not voting who the greatest physical athlete is.

Think of it as who was the greatest hockey player in their time/era.

 

[Dirby Kach]

your point? were not voting who the greatest physical athlete is.

Think of it as who was the greatest hockey player in their time/era.

My point is that he isnt that special.
There was just a lack of talent, work ethic, preparation, etc. in those times.
Teleport my 2020 beer league skills to 1973 and i'm a hall of famer.

 

[JoVel]

My point is that he isnt that special.
There was just a lack of talent, work ethic, preparation, etc. in those times.
Teleport my 2020 beer league skills to 1973 and i'm a hall of famer.

I'll tell you what certainly is special. Calling the guy with more assists than anyone else has points "nothing special".

 

[Dirby Kach]

I'll tell you what certainly is special. Calling the guy with more assists than anyone else has points "nothing special".

Yeah well color me unimpressed about that accomplishment in that era.
Joe Thornton in his prime is a better passer than Gretzky.

Easy to set guys up for goals when your team mates are shooting on goalies with wooden goal pads.

 

[DitchMarner]

if i teleported 1993 Gretzky into 20-21 LA Kings camp, he wouldnt even make the opening night roster.

Considering Jagr played back then and was still a pretty good player a few years ago at an old age, he probably would.

 

[KMart27]

if i teleported 1993 Gretzky into 20-21 LA Kings camp, he wouldnt even make the opening night roster.

If I teleported you into a place that knew nothing about hockey, even they would think that claim is a crock.

 

[amnesiac]

My point is that he isnt that special.
There was just a lack of talent, work ethic, preparation, etc. in those times.
Teleport my 2020 beer league skills to 1973 and i'm a hall of famer.

Ok, you dont get it, youre thinking about this the wrong way... He was still greater than everyone in his era by a far greater margin than Crosby ever was. I mean, you can say that about ANY sport on the planet in regards to today's athletes.

Ruth couldnt hit a modern day major league pitch.
Jordan wouldnt be close to who he was against today's NBA defense.
Jim Brown couldnt stand a chance against today's NFL linemen.
etc
etc

I mean to you, Howie Morenz was a horrible hockey player since he couldnt come close to competing in today's game. Basically your TOP 10 NHL players of all-time comprise of players of the past 15 years.

Again, greatness is relative to THE ERA they played in. Its not very hard to comprehend.

 

[amnesiac]

Yeah well color me unimpressed about that accomplishment in that era.
Joe Thornton in his prime is a better passer than Gretzky.

Easy to set guys up for goals when your team mates are shooting on goalies with wooden goal pads.

and youll say the same about Crosby and McDavid in 2045. Right?

 

[Voight]

Ok, you dont get it, youre thinking about this the wrong way... He was still greater than everyone in his era by a far greater margin than Crosby ever was. I mean, you can say that about ANY sport on the planet in regards to today's athletes.

Ruth couldnt hit a modern day major league pitch.
Jordan wouldnt be close to who he was against today's NBA defense.
Jim Brown couldnt stand a chance against today's NFL linemen.
etc
etc

I mean to you, Howie Morenz was a horrible hockey player since he couldnt come close to competing in today's game. Basically your TOP 10 NHL players of all-time comprise of players of the past 15 years.

Again, greatness is relative to THE ERA they played in. Its not very hard to comprehend.

Actually he would.... have you not seen the abuse he suffered as a player?

Anyways lets not get OT.....

 

[amnesiac]

Actually he would.... have you not seen the abuse he suffered as a player?

Anyways lets not get OT.....

defenses are still better today than they were 20-30 years ago, no matter the sport. They have to stop more skilled players today.

 

[Steven Toast]

Imagine thinking Crosby is better than Howe

Howe is better overall. Post 1967 Crosby is definitely better.