Top 5 (22 and under): NJD vs MTL vs DET vs OTT vs BUF vs ANA

[Golden_Jet]

it would be interesting to see where ottawa would have ended up if they kept byram

Take tkachuk 7 days a week over Bryan.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Take tkachuk 7 days a week over Bryan.

do you mean duchene? that pick was used in the duchene trade. the sens could have had both byram and tkachuk.

 

[Korpse]

it would be interesting to see where ottawa would have ended up if they kept byram

I've actually never thought about it. Might have something to do with getting Sanderson with their own pick and being fortunate enough to also walk away with Stutzle from another teams pick in the very next draft.

 

[dirtydanglez]

I've actually never thought about it. Might have something to do with getting Sanderson with their own pick and being fortunate enough to also walk away with Stutzle from another teams pick in the very next draft.

stutzle, tkachuk, pinto, byram, sanderson vs hughes, holtz, mercer, hughes, nemec would be a great head-to-head battle. nj looks like it has more potential but ottawa would be more proven.

 

[Golden_Jet]

do you mean duchene? that pick was used in the duchene trade. the sens could have had both byram and tkachuk.

Yes it was Duchene, but Sens had choice on which first to give up, they decided to go with Tkachuk over Bryam. Smart choice.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Yes it was Duchene, but Sens had choice on which first to give up, they decided to go with Tkachuk over Bryam. Smart choice.

more luck than anything. that pick had the highest odds to be jack hughes lol. imagine if the sens had hughes.

 

[Korpse]

more luck than anything. that pick had the highest odds to be jack hughes lol. imagine if the sens had hughes.

Under that system the most likely scenario for the last play team was picking 4th with 50.6%, only 18.5% chance of picking first. Weird game you are playing.

I often wonder what would have happened if Andrew Hammond never existed. Would Connor McDavid be a Ottawa Senator?

 

[dirtydanglez]

Under that system the most likely scenario for the last play team was picking 4th with 50.6%, only 18.5% chance of picking first. Weird game you are playing.

the next best pick had 13.5% odds. so yes that pick had the highest odds of being jack hughes.

 

[Korpse]

the next best pick had 13.5% odds. so yes that pick had the highest odds of being jack hughes.

The scenario most likely to happen, happened. I don’t think I need to explain further. Trolling doesn’t require being daft.

 

[dirtydanglez]

The scenario most likely to happen, happened. I don’t think I need to explain further.

yes. the sens were lucky. back to square one.

 

[Korpse]

yes. the sens were lucky. back to square one.

18.5% vs 81.5%. Which is more likely?

 

[Golden_Jet]

the next best pick had 13.5% odds. so yes that pick had the highest odds of being jack hughes.

you don’t know if you’ll finish dead last a year out, even if you did, its an 82% chance someone else wins, and
Sens made the smart play. Now you probably derailed this enough I’d say.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

It’s a shame Hughes is a soft player, 109 hits for Stützle this year, 44 for Hughes in his career.
Needs to play even a little physical.

How many hits did Stutzle have last night? However many it was, looks like it had a real effect on the scoreboard.

He’s down to 1.12ppg now just to keep everyone in the loop.

 

[Xirik]

Why would you need to hit when you are among the fastest skaters in the league and have an active stick that causes turnovers every other shift? Perhaps if Stutzle focused on the puck more instead of hits he would be at Hughes level?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Why would you need to hit when you are among the fastest skaters in the league and have an active stick that causes turnovers every other shift? Perhaps if Stutzle focused on the puck more instead of hits he would be at Hughes level?

Lol, you just described Stutzle in that first sentence. Why would a player need to hit, you’re a funny person.

 

[Xirik]

It’s a shame Hughes is a soft player, 109 hits for Stützle this year, 44 for Hughes in his career.
Needs to play even a little physical.

Lol, you just described Stutzle in that first sentence. Why would a player need to hit, you’re a funny person.

Get some help

 

[Mrb1p]

The gap between Stutzle and Hughes is massive rn.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

The gap between Stutzle and Hughes is massive rn.

Suzuki would be battling it out with 3rd line C spot with Pinto on Ottawa. I'd comfortably take Suzuki there, though.

 

[Mrb1p]

Suzuki would be battling it out with 3rd line C spot with Pinto on Ottawa. I'd comfortably take Suzuki there, though.

Damn why bring in Suzuki? Also you guys dont have a 2md line or what? Just forgone this bc Norris is always injured?

 

[Sens9292]

Damn why bring in Suzuki? Also you guys dont have a 2md line or what? Just forgone this bc Norris is always injured?

This makes little sense

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I've actually never thought about it. Might have something to do with getting Sanderson with their own pick and being fortunate enough to also walk away with Stutzle from another teams pick in the very next draft.

They got those 2 in the same draft.

The next year they drafted the prospect whose name is to never be spoken

 

[danisonfire]

This is my list of top 5 point scorers from each team. I have bolded things that are extremely impressive in the context of their team, or list as a whole. For example; Jesper Bratt is not highlighted but he has put together two strong seasons in a row. Not a slight. Same for most of Ottawas roster. Seider is still amazing, Detroit fans, if you get my point.

NJD:

Jack Hughes - 95 Points (18 Points higher than #2)
Nico Hischier - 77 Points
Dougie Hamilton - 73 Points (D, Impressive)
Jesper Bratt - 70 Points
Dawson Mercer - 55 Points (Rookie in top 5)

BUF:

Tage Thompson - 93 Points (18 Points higher than #2)
Jeff Skinner - 75 Points
Alex Tuch - 74 Points
Rasus Dahlin - 72 Points (D, Impressive)
Dylan Cozens - 67 Points

OTT:

Tim Stützle - 84 Points
Brady Tkachuk - 79 Points
Claude Giroux - 74 Points
Alex DeBrincat - 64 Points
Drake Batherson - 60 Points

DET:

Dylan Larkin - 78 Points (24 Points higher than #2)
David Perron - 54 Points
Lucas Raymond - 45 Points
Dominik Kubalik - 45 Points
Moritz Seider - 42 Points

ANA:

Trevor Zegras - 60 Points
Troy Terrry - 57 Points
Cam Fowler - 44 Points
Mason McTavish - 42 Points (Rookie in top 5)
Frank Vatrano - 39 Points

MTL:

Nick Suzuki - 63 Points (25 Points higher than #2)
Kirby Dach - 38 Points
Cole Caufield - 36 Points
Mike Hoffman - 34 Points
Mike Matheson - 33 Points

These teams are in order of who I think is the farthest ahead in their rebuilds. There are of course players in this poll that are not on my list but I have accounted for them in my rankings.

NJD, BUF, OTT are all in a more advanced stage of their "rebuilds".
DET, ANA, MTL are all in the earlier stages.

I just hope this stops people from blindly throwing players point totals around as if 70 Points playing on ANA MTL or DET is the same as 70 points playing for NJD, BUF or OTT. Montreal's top 5 scorers added up produced 204 points (injuries to everything with arms and legs). NJD top two players are already at a combined 172 total points. Their top 5 has 370 total points.

 

[TBF1972]

NJD, BUF, OTT are all in a more advanced stage of their "rebuilds".

some of the more arrogant devils fans like me are hopeful they make the playoffs this season.

 

[danisonfire]

some of the more arrogant devils fans like me are hopeful they make the playoffs this season.

If you can at least get to 51 wins this season you have a good chance to turn this "rebuild" around

 

[PatrickMcC]

Why is this thread still going? It’s super outdated. Let’s lock this up