Top 40 NA of 2005

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  1. Newfie Bruin

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    1. Sidney Crosby, C, Rimouski (QMJHL)
    2. Gilbert Brule, C, Vancouver (WHL)
    3. Guillaume Latendresse, LW, Drummondville (QMJHL)
    4. Daniel Bertram, F, Boston College, NCAA
    5.Andrew Cogliano, C, St. Michael's Jr. A (OPJHL)
    6 Jack Johnson, D, US Under 18
    7 Chris Durand, C, Seattle (WHL)
    8 Devin Setoguchi, C, Saskatoon (WHL)
    9 JP Levasseur, G, Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)
    10 Bobby Ryan, RW, Owen Sound (OHL)
    11 Marc Staal, D, Sudbury (OHL)
    12 Ryan Mior, G, PEI (QMJHL)
    13 Matt Lahoff, D, Kitchener (OHL)
    14 Daniel Ryder F Peterborough (OHL)
    15 Ryan Wilson, D, St. Michael's (OHL)
    16 Ryan O'Marra, C/LW, Erie (OHL)
    17 Nick Drazenovic, C, Prince George (WHL)
    18 Alex Bourret, RW, Lewiston (QMJHL)
    19 Jean-Philippe Paquet. D Shawinigan
    20 Luc Bourdon, D, Val D'Or (QMJHL)
    21 Mike Gauthier, D, Prince Albert(WHL)
    22 Carey Price,G, WHL
    23 Brendan Mikkelson. D, WHL
    24 Jack Skille, LW, US Under 18
    25 Ray Macias, D, Kamloops (WHL)
    26. Kyle Lamb, D, OHL
    27. Patrick Davis, LW, OHL
    28. TJ Hensick, F, Opt out from 04
    29. Dustin Kohn Calgary.D, (WHL)
    30. Scott Jackson, D, Seattle
    31. Ryan Parent , D, OHL
    32. Devereaux Heshmatpour. D Kitchener (OHL)
    33. Nate Hagemo ,D, USA
    34. Brock Bradford, C, (BCJHL)
    35. Adam Hobson, F, Spokane Chiefs (WHL)
    36. Patrick McNeill, D, Saginaw (OHL)
    37. Ryan Stoa, F, NTDP U17
    38. Justin Saulnier, F, QMJHL
    39. Andrew Androcopolous,D, QMJHL
    40. Brian Lee, F, USA
    HM: Mike Stuart: Nathan Gerbe: Jason Lawrence: Marc-Andre Cote: Riley Merkley

    need lots of feedback. Thanks!
     
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  2. Newfie Bruin

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    no one??? Does anyone think i left someone out or some is placed way to high/low?
     
  3. Doug Evinou

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    here are a few ohlers who are good:

    cal clutterbuck (st. mikes) - C
    phil oreskovic (brampton) - D
    justin wallingford (oshawa) - under the absolutely huge d-man file
    steve downie (windsor) - F
    elgin reid (ottawa) - D

    i wouldn't put any of them as first rounders, but i think they'll all improve next year with more ice time in their second ohl seasons, and will get drafted. they can all play.
     
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    A few US guys who could end up in the North American top 40...

    Jeff Frazee- Goalie of the NTDP U17 team. He had a poor showing at the U17 World Challenge but was very good the rest of the season.

    Ryan Stoa- Another NTDP U17 team member, he probably has better NHL potential than Jason Lawrence who you have listed. He's got good size (6'2" or 6'3") and pretty good skill.

    Mike Stuart- Huge (6'5" 220) NTDP U17 d-man. I know that the Red Line Report had him quite high in their rankings at one point.

    Brian Lee- Played Minnesota High School hockey last season. He'll either return there or head to the USHL. I've heard that he's got excellent potential.

    EJHL guys like Tim Kunes (d-man) or Brian Foster (goalie) could end up getting attention.

    There will probably be some surprises from the "lower" US leagues like there are every year.
     
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    who are some of the best american 87's in the CHL. we hear a lot about the americans playing with the ntdp but there must be some good ones in the O and the DUB
     
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    There are actually a pretty good number of '87 born Americans playing in the CHL but I haven't heard a lot about most of them. Here are the names I know of...

    QMJHL
    James Pouliot, Forward (late Bday), Halifax
    Joey Ryan, Defense (late Bday), Quebec
    Andrew Andricopoulos, Defense, Quebec

    OHL
    Bobby Ryan, Forward, Owen Sound
    Steve Spade, Defense (late Bday), Barrie
    Tommy Mannino, Forward, Windsor
    Dan Collins, Forward, Plymouth
    Sean O'Connor, Forward, Erie
    Adam Abraham, Defense, Mississauga
    Chris Gravelding, Defense (late Bday), Kitchener
    Devereax Heshmatpour, Defense, Kitchener
    Chad Loikets, Defense, Erie
    Ryan McGinnis, Defense, Plymouth
    Scott Zimmerman, Forward, Mississauga
    Nick Foligno, Forward (late Bday), Sudbury ('04-'05 Rookie)
    Luke Lynes, Forward (Late Bday), Brampton ('04-'05 Rookie)

    WHL
    Joey Perricone, Goalie, Moose Jaw
    Sean Zimmerman, Defense, Spokane
    Tim Kraus, Forward, Vancouver

    Some have had a lot of hype over the years but others are still a bit of a mystery to me. Anyone have any impressions on these guys? Am I missing anyone?
     
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    Isn't Clutterbuck 2006 eligible? He has a late '87 birthday. November 18, 1987. Can anyone shed some light on this?
     
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    yeah, you're right. sorry.
     
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    If Brock Bradford is in your top 40 then Nathan Gerbe should be. Gerbe is maybe IMO the closest thing to Theo Fleury yet, the guys is a great skater, energy player, awsome offensive ability that is electrifying to watch and he loves the rough play dishing out hits, also works his tail off every shift. Bradford IMO though is unltra talented, I think he is way too weak right now, and even though he had a great point total at the U17s, I found most games he was pushed off the puck super easy and throw around easy, he played on a line with Brule and Setouguchi and it wouldn't be hard to put points up with those two guys, IMO I think Bradford will drop out of the top 60 if he can't improve his strength, he has top 30 talent, but IF HE CAN'T IMPROVE HIS STRENGTH then I think he will fall to 3rd round or so.
     
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    No problem. It seems like a lot of people dont notice that he has to wait a year to be drafted because of playing at the U-18's this summer. That puts Little and Clutterbuck as 2006's with international tournament experience. :)
     
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    I rate Heshmatpour ahead of McNeill and Ryder ahead of O'Marra.Drazenovic is maybe a little low. Good list!
     
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    Top 5 missing

    Nate Hagemo's name doesn't appear.
    A very well kept secret it appears........
    Nate will be a top 10 if not a top 5.
    Nate may not have the overall height
    5'11" or 6", but he has the heart that very
    few others have. Extremely strong, especially lower body, for his size
    It is my understanding he had a very good tryout in
    Grand Forks over the weekend.
    Should definitely be on the list.....
     
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    The reports on Nate Hagemo were very positive from the evaluation camp, even from Sioux fans. When Keith Ballard signed with the Coyotes, his name popped up as someone that could try to replace that void. He will get plenty of attention playing for the Gophers.
     
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    The only problem with Hagemo from an NHL draft perspective is his size. If you're under 6'0" and you play defense you have to be pretty exceptional to get drafted in the first few rounds.
     
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    What about Chris Lawrence and Richard Clune?
     
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    Brian Lee should definitely be in there...If he has a good year he could easily be a first rounder.
     
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    does anyone have any kind of report on these 3 americans from the dub?? and why werent any of them on the under 18 team?
     
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    Can anyone tell me anything about Raymond Macias. This is a very interesting prospect to me, being that he's from the LBC! Also, is there any hard-hitting, hard-shooting, all-around defensemen in this years draft, ala Suter, Phaneuf, and Green?
     
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    Anikeenko is an extremley hard hitter

    Paquet is a very good hitter as well

    Jack Johnson is a real hard hitter
     
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    Ray Macias is a smooth-skating offensive defenseman. So much so, that at times he was used at forward for Kamloops last year. From what I've seen, he could use some work defensively, as he sometimes makes high-risk plays. But he's fast and really knows his way around the offensive zone. I do think he could be a mid to late 1st rounder, due to his offensive abilities alone.

    I haven't seen many others, but Jack Johnson is an all-around defenseman with a lot of offensive ability. He's a smooth skater, has a big time shot, and has a bit of a mean streak when the going gets tough defensively. Should be a top 10 pick.
     
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    I've seen Bradford play, and I'd have to agree. At this point, he's so smooth and talented on the ice, there are maybe two or three guys a year who have the kind of pure talent he has. However, his size .. I mean, my god, he's SO small. I will say there's a chance he could Peirre-Marc Bouchard it next year and really fly up the charts, but I would say more likely he will be a mid to late first rounder that could slip into the second by 2005.

    That said, it's really early and a lot of things could happen. Brock plays on a very good line with Avs prospect David Jones and another Avs prospect in Brandon Yip, and let me tell you, I could really see the Avs taking this guy, as he really seems like their type of player.
     
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    Since when is 5'8'' SO small? Sure he's short but he's not Theo Fleury.
     
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    5'8 is short yes, but what I was mostly talking about is his frame size and muscel structure.
     
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    David Tanabe clone?
     
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